Is Chad Dawson a shot fighter?

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  • king Ketchel
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    #51
    No, he just wasn't that good.

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    • gauze
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      #52
      Originally posted by king Ketchel
      No, he just wasn't that good.
      he looked pretty damn good minus a knockdown against a prime adamek who went on to accomplish some good things at cruiser and has held his own at heavyweight. it's not that he wasnt that good, he just suffers from judah-syndrome at times

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      • king Ketchel
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        #53
        Originally posted by gauze
        he looked pretty damn good minus a knockdown against a prime adamek who went on to accomplish some good things at cruiser and has held his own at heavyweight. it's not that he wasnt that good, he just suffers from judah-syndrome at times
        He didn't look that great vs Adamek IMO and I can't consider it a prime Adamek either since his best weight was cruiser and Heavyweight.

        The fact that I don't even think he could beat Pascal in a rematch shows he isn't that ggood. Decent, but nothing special.

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        • JAB5239
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          #54
          Originally posted by gauze
          he looked pretty damn good minus a knockdown against a prime adamek who went on to accomplish some good things at cruiser and has held his own at heavyweight. it's not that he wasnt that good, he just suffers from judah-syndrome at times
          I like the Judah comparison, another fighter who was knocked out and took a bad beating only to keep coming back and showing he could fight at a top level if not elite. Time will tell on Dawson, but to many people are jumping the gun with to little information to go by.

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          • Boxingwizard
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            #55
            Originally posted by king Ketchel
            He didn't look that great vs Adamek IMO and I can't consider it a prime Adamek either since his best weight was cruiser and Heavyweight.

            The fact that I don't even think he could beat Pascal in a rematch shows he isn't that good. Decent, but nothing special.
            He was real good, you should see his fights from 2007 and prior, one of the best prospects I've seen during that time. It was around 2008 when he fired Floyd Mayeather Sr and hired Eddie Muhammad is when his fights started to look lackluster. It's a mental issue with Chad that prevents him fighting to his potential.

            You can't switch trainers 10 times and expect to be at the top of your game. He was switching trainers a lot even before he won the title but that was against C and D level boxers. At the world class level you have to be at the top of your game and Dawson needed a trainer that was right for him and a trainer that would discipline him. He got that with Floyd Sr and previous other trainers, but he fired them for whatever reason.
            Last edited by Boxingwizard; 07-02-2013, 08:13 PM.

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            • Boxingwizard
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              #56
              Dawson is done, he's made so many bad decisions in his career and now it's resulting in loses. He has no one to blame but himself, he made a lot of dumb fights (the Ward and Tarver fights for example), he is always changing trainers, he's avoided and ducked fighters (Diaconu and Cloud). He's also mentally weak.

              Dawson during the pre-fight with Stevenson was aggressive in his trash talking which was odd. To me that showed how insecure Dawson is, if he was confident he would of respected his opponent more. Scully is right about Dawson, he doesn't the love the sport of boxing, he doesn't care about being an underachiever, he doesn't care about being the best. He wants to win his way, even if it doesn't work.
              Last edited by Boxingwizard; 07-02-2013, 07:55 PM.

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              • MJ223
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                #57
                Nah not at all.....

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                  I think Dawson is more of mental midget than actually being physically shot. He makes poor career decisions. Dropping down to a weight class that you haven't fought at in years to fight the number 1 guy in that weight class and also P4P #2 is ******. Oh yeah and he fought in Ward's back yard. People say he has balls, I call the Ward fight ******. Then like Pascal said, fighting Adonis Stevenson, the true definition of a punchers chance. A High Risk, Low Reward type of fight. He shouldve fought Cleverly or Shumenov and unified. In boxing the same fans that praise you for taking a risky fight, will be the ones laughing at you and making GIFs of your knockout reel. So as a boxer you have to make decisions that best suit you, your team, and your family.
                  Last edited by hhwff3000; 07-03-2013, 11:08 AM.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by hhwff3000
                    I think Dawson is more of mental midget than actually being physically shot. He makes poor career decisions. Dropping down to a weight class that you haven't fought at in years to fight the number 1 guy in that weight class and also P4P #2 is ******. Oh yeah and he fought in Ward's back yard. People say he has balls, I call the Ward fight ******. Then like Pascal said, fighting Adonis Stevenson, the true definition of a punchers chance. A High Risk, Low Reward type of fight. He shouldve fought Cleverly or Shumenov and unified. In boxing the same fans that praise you for taking a risky fight, will be the ones laughing at you and making GIFs of your knockout reel. So as a boxer you have to make decisions that best suit you, your team, and your family.
                    Very good post.

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                    • T-97
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                      I think he's fine physically, but I don't think he'll be all there mentally after two stoppage losses. The Ward fight was a one sided beat down, which must have played on his mind a bit. But at least with that he could excuse it as being drained...

                      But to suffer a first round KO straight after? I don't know how easy it will be to recover mentally from that.

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