Is Chad Dawson a shot fighter?

[John Barron]

nah he just needs a new trainer.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.

Overhyped? No sir. Shot? He might as well be. Committed suicide chasing Ward and didn't even get paid enough for it. Threw his career for pennies.


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Has he looked shot at 175? Have his skills and speed noticably declined at that weight?

Refer to NE's post above.

The guy dropped to a weight he hadn't been in YEARS and got demolished in the process. Then add the fact that he's always been mentally weak too.


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[JAB5239]

would dawson have gotten stopped by the first punch stevenson threw in '08? of course not.

no way it even hits him, at least not like that.

dawson is done. his chin was never bad. it wasn't great, but it wasn't a joke, the way it was against war @ 168 and again against stevenson @ 175.


we didn't see much, if anything from dawson in his last fight, other than stevenson stopping him with the first punch he landed. to know for sure we'll need another fight. for me, though, a first round stoppage loss to stevenson will seal the deal.


dawson never lived up to his talent, though he had a solid career.

I agree Dawson never lived up to his talent. And I'm not comparing them, but I remember fighters such as Duran and Lewis who got stretched but were clearly not shot.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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would dawson have gotten stopped by the first punch stevenson threw in '08? of course not.

no way it even hits him, at least not like that.

dawson is done. his chin was never bad. it wasn't great, but it wasn't a joke, the way it was against war @ 168 and again against stevenson @ 175.


we didn't see much, if anything from dawson in his last fight, other than stevenson stopping him with the first punch he landed. to know for sure we'll need another fight. for me, though, a first round stoppage loss to stevenson will seal the deal.


dawson never lived up to his talent, though he had a solid career.

I agree Dawson never lived up to his talent. And I'm not comparing them, but I remember fighters such as Duran and Lewis who got stretched but were clearly not shot.

Were Duran and Lewis mentally weak like Dawson? Not comparable at all.


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[JAB5239]

Refer to NE's post above.

The guy dropped to a weight he hadn't been in YEARS and got demolished in the process. Then add the fact that he's always been mentally weak too.


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Yes, but Im talking at 175. Has his skillset noticeably declined in your opinion at this weight?

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Imagine if Khan had Ortiz's or Dawson's mentality... A lot of people would be happy right now. He probably would be out of boxing already.


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[JAB5239]

Were Duran and Lewis mentally weak like Dawson? Not comparable at all.


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I clearly said I wasn't comparing them. But its worth noting a fighter can get destroyed and still not be shot.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Refer to NE's post above.

The guy dropped to a weight he hadn't been in YEARS and got demolished in the process. Then add the fact that he's always been mentally weak too.


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Yes, but Im talking at 175. Has his skillset noticeably declined in your opinion at this weight?

Skillset? Hard to tell cause the Stevenson fight ended so quick. But like someone said, psychologically/mentally he's done. He could very well be battleworn, I think the Ward fight sealed it.


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[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.

Were Duran and Lewis mentally weak like Dawson? Not comparable at all.


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I clearly said I wasn't comparing them. But its worth noting a fighter can get destroyed and still not be shot.

My bad I missed that part. You're right tho, Pacquiao could be another example too. He was stopped a couple of times but look what happened afterwards.


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[JAB5239]

Skillset? Hard to tell cause the Stevenson fight ended so quick. But like someone said, psychologically/mentally he's done. He could very well be battleworn, I think the Ward fight sealed it.


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Thing is he's not battle worn. Besides the Ward fight he's taken no real beatings.