What happens with Rigondeaux????

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  • jabSTRAIGHTh00k
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    #51
    stop kidding yourself, he still fights like an amateur. he definitely has power and can knock guys out, but man does he take awhile to initiate some kind of action. And when he does, its mostly pot shots and range finder jabs. Boxing purist can appreciate his counter punching style but not to the casual fan.
    With his speed, power, and experience, he could be that whole package of offensive and defensive mastery. Man, i wish roach would've gave him more attention before he left as he definietly wouldve helped in his offense.
    His style and his quiet personality, i feel, is whats keeping him from being a big draw.

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    • LoadedWraps
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      #52
      Originally posted by Keitha313
      Harsh but somewhat I can agree...
      Its hard to sell your stock If you want to be a PPV fighter which I don't think Rigondeaux ever will be, he doesn't have the style to sell.
      The way he fights is gruelling and I can imagine taking alot of steam out of him because he works very hard but people 9/10 times are going to favour someone being able to mix it up in offence and defence, not the best watch when someone is on the backfoot the entire fight.
      Stand your ground once in awhile, I'm not saying walk onto shot but at the very least you shouldn't have to take 5/10second spells of dancing around the ring with inactivity nobody wants to see that, that is time wasting in its own right.
      What? Are you really trying to say Rigo is one dimensional and peddaling backward during his fights? I am actually speechless. What do you like about boxing? What kind of a fan are you? Serious question. Anyone who can't appreciate actual boxing prowess and skill in any form I have to wonder if they are fans of the sport, or casual fans who only want blood and senseless knockouts. Why do I ask? Because if you are the latter, I am wasting my time. If you aren't then I would love to know what makes Rigo so uninteresting or unmarketable, as a student and amateur of the sport I can't get enough of Rigo, and while I love fighters like Margarito and Maidana who come forward with pressure, how, seriously, how can anyone not enjoy slips and feints moving in and out and using almost perfect footwork? How can you act like the science of the sport is boring? That's what brought me and many others to the sport in the first place.

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      • Zelong Dong
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        #53
        Originally posted by nachorjj
        Rigo beat a top 5 P4P bigger than him, and beat him easy, and when it appears that his career began to take force. not given more importance and there is not rumors of another fight. I love this sport, but it's a shame that he only important boxers who have marketing, and those who do not have them but they have talent, take them out of the way to protect those who have market.
        With Rigo went wrong, went wrong with them, and now are not going to give good fights
        It's Rigo's own fault. If he came to win in spectacular fashion maybe the ordinary fans will want to see him. Majority of peeps don't go to see great footwork.

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        • sicko
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          #54
          He likely ends up like Andre Ward...TOO GOOD FOR HIS OWN DIVISION that people will use that "HE IS BORING" excuse as a reason not to fight him like Donaire was trying to do

          He don't have anybody else to fight to be honest especially since Top Rank is not going to do any business with GBP, so at the moment Rigondeaux vs Mares, Moreno or Santa Cruz is never going to happen

          So like Ward he will end up kinda just stuck at the top of his division with no serious challengers and he may have to travel just to get good pay days and some competition

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          • brettWall
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            #55
            Originally posted by LoadedWraps
            What? Are you really trying to say Rigo is one dimensional and peddaling backward during his fights? I am actually speechless. What do you like about boxing? What kind of a fan are you? Serious question. Anyone who can't appreciate actual boxing prowess and skill in any form I have to wonder if they are fans of the sport, or casual fans who only want blood and senseless knockouts. Why do I ask? Because if you are the latter, I am wasting my time. If you aren't then I would love to know what makes Rigo so uninteresting or unmarketable, as a student and amateur of the sport I can't get enough of Rigo, and while I love fighters like Margarito and Maidana who come forward with pressure, how, seriously, how can anyone not enjoy slips and feints moving in and out and using almost perfect footwork? How can you act like the science of the sport is boring? That's what brought me and many others to the sport in the first place.
            Boxing is business. It takes hundreds of dollars and thousands of man hours just to fund and organize a small fight. Investors had to make money. Otherwise, no one would be crazy enough to organize another. If you are a hardcore fan and want to see more of such fighters, then do something about it. Raise money. Pay more than the casual fans pay. Promote such fights. Sell tickets. Anything to help the people organizing and funding such events. Point is, GET REAL.

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            • LoadedWraps
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              #56
              Originally posted by BreWall
              Boxing is business. It takes hundreds of dollars and thousands of man hours just to fund and organize a small fight. Investors had to make money. Otherwise, no one would be crazy enough to organize another. If you are a hardcore fan and want to see more of such fighters, then do something about it. Raise money. Pay more than the casual fans pay. Promote such fights. Sell tickets. Anything to help the people organizing and funding such events. Point is, GET REAL.
              That would be a good thing to say to me if you knew me and I wasn't already active, but I am. I promote boxing and what is truly remarkable about the sport wherever I go, go to my friends pro fights, and would do anything for my trainer and team. I know how the business works. That's got nothing to do with someone failing to admire a high level of boxing skill and talent, only because said fighter doesn't go in for blind exchanges and get tagged. I work hours on defense, the name of the game is hit and don't be hit.

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              • PRchamp
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                #57
                Rigo got blackballed after beating Donaire. Top Rank the leader of recycling fights for some odd reason doesn't want to make another Rigo-Donaire fight.

                Rigo needs a fight by the end of the year. He can't be in the shelf for too long

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                • brettWall
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                  #58
                  Donaire himself never had the style casuals prefer watching. He knew it. You could tell he's been trying to be more entertaining in his last 2-4 fights. But he will never become a PPV attraction. There's no DLH in his division to take him there. Give him guys like Rigo... you get zzzzzzzzzzz.... Boxing is not charity to entertain streamers.

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                  • CubanGuyNYC
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                    ...as a student and amateur of the sport I can't get enough of Rigo, and while I love fighters like Margarito and Maidana who come forward with pressure, how, seriously, how can anyone not enjoy slips and feints moving in and out and using almost perfect footwork? How can you act like the science of the sport is boring?
                    Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                    ...I know how the business works. That's got nothing to do with someone failing to admire a high level of boxing skill and talent, only because said fighter doesn't go in for blind exchanges and get tagged. I work hours on defense, the name of the game is hit and don't be hit.
                    It's been a real pleasure reading your last couple of posts, man. I feel exactly the way you do. In every sport, there are practitioners that emphasize offense over defense, and vice-versa. Sometimes you get someone who seems equally adept at both. In any case, real aficionados appreciate the differences in approach. We all have our preferences, but I can never understand how someone can call themselves a fan and not at least accept the pure aspect of a given sport.

                    Guillermo Rigondeaux is a pure boxer, a craftsman. If you love boxing, you have to at least appreciate "El Chacal's" amazing skills and talent. Not your cup of tea? That's fine. But don't tell me filet mignon stinks, just because you prefer hamburger. That tells me a little something about your level of understanding.

                    Green K, brother.

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                    • prinzemanspopa
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                      #60
                      Well, sitting on your arse and waiting for your promoter to throw a bone in your direction isn't going to help. There's no reason why he can't stay active and keep fighting, even if they money isn't great and they're not the very best fighters in the division. If you have to fight on ESPN just to keep your name out there, so be it.

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