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  • LacedUp
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    #21
    Originally posted by yoz
    I'm not saying it's a bad fight for Haye. It's win-win: he'll move up the rankings with a win, and get a great pay day.

    Re. Wladimir. Most of the 'contenders' are ducking him, so he's having to search further and further down the rankings for opposition. He likes to keep busy; we shouldn't complain.
    So most of the contenders are ducking him? Have you ever thought they are ducking Haye as well? Not because they are scared or anything, but because it's high-risk, low reward.

    Like pulev, who was offered a shot, turned it down for a fight against Fury for the final eliminator. Fury obviously dropped out for whatever reason, but can you see it wouldn't make sense for Pulev to fight Haye?

    Btw, nobody is ducking Wlad, he should just pay them more than £100.000 like he did Chisora.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #22
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Alright guys, so David Haye is a contender. right? He's fighting a guy who most governing bodies rank top 5. And it's a careful cherrypick?

      Yoz, what were you saying when Wlad fought guys that weren't even ranked in the top 20? And Wlad is the champion.

      If Wlad had fought Fury later this year, everyone would be saying how he "always takes on the best" and fights "everyone in the top 10". Don't say you wouldn't because the script was already written with Mormeck, Pianeta and Wach.

      that being said, I do agree Fury is a turd and Haye will KO him in 3 rounds. But give me none of that stuff about cherrypicking, especially when you are a huge klitschko fan.

      Dirk - Ranking is not irrelevant. He's trying to secure a Klitschko shot. Who else would bring him closer? And who exactly wouldn't be a cherrypick? Be realistic in terms of the boxers profile.
      Stylistically it's a cherry pick. Haye seemingly had no interest in Fury a few months ago but now he's seen him make something of a name for himself whilst also being put on his arse hard by a light punching cruiserweight (with an overhand right), suddenly he's desperate for the fight.

      I don't blame Haye for taking the fight necessarily, it's easy money yet again for him. But it's not a great win, Ive never rated Fury even though I've started to like him.

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      • yoz
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        #23
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        So most of the contenders are ducking him? Have you ever thought they are ducking Haye as well? Not because they are scared or anything, but because it's high-risk, low reward.

        Like pulev, who was offered a shot, turned it down for a fight against Fury for the final eliminator. Fury obviously dropped out for whatever reason, but can you see it wouldn't make sense for Pulev to fight Haye?

        Btw, nobody is ducking Wlad, he should just pay them more than £100.000 like he did Chisora.

        oh dear.

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          #24
          Originally posted by yoz
          oh dear.
          Please back up that facepalm.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Stylistically it's a cherry pick. Haye seemingly had no interest in Fury a few months ago but now he's seen him make something of a name for himself whilst also being put on his arse hard by a light punching cruiserweight (with an overhand right), suddenly he's desperate for the fight.

            I don't blame Haye for taking the fight necessarily, it's easy money yet again for him. But it's not a great win, Ive never rated Fury even though I've started to like him.
            Yeah, but before the cunningham fight he was really only a domestic level fighter. Now he's fought and won in the states, dropped that ****ty "irish hw title" that he was so proud of and gained himself a bit of a following. Plus, Haye will make £5m for that fight.

            Believe it or not, most fighters are in it for the money, not for the "legacy".

            Add to that, when Haye beats Fury it will lead him closer to a mandatory.

            Who else could have done that for him?
            Last edited by LacedUp; 06-26-2013, 08:01 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Yeah, but before the cunningham fight he was really only a domestic level fighter. Now he's fought and won in the states, dropped that ****ty "irish hw title" that he was so proud of and gained himself a bit of a following. Plus, Haye will make £5m for that fight.

              Believe it or not, most fighters are in it for the money, not for the "legacy".

              Add to that, when Haye beats Fury it will lead him closer to a mandatory.
              Yeah like I said, I don't blame it. I actually admire Haye in a way for doing so little whilst making so much money. He's arguably a better business man than Mayweather.

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              • LacedUp
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                #27
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Yeah like I said, I don't blame it. I actually admire Haye in a way for doing so little whilst making so much money. He's arguably a better business man than Mayweather.
                At least he's exciting in the ring 80% of the time, which is more than what you can say for Mayweather.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  So most of the contenders are ducking him? Have you ever thought they are ducking Haye as well? Not because they are scared or anything, but because it's high-risk, low reward.

                  Like pulev, who was offered a shot, turned it down for a fight against Fury for the final eliminator. Fury obviously dropped out for whatever reason, but can you see it wouldn't make sense for Pulev to fight Haye?

                  Btw, nobody is ducking Wlad, he should just pay them more than £100.000 like he did Chisora.
                  I can see how it would make sense for Haye not to fight Pulev, but why wouldn't Pulev fight Haye? It would surely be his biggest payday. I don't believe he turned that fight down and I don't believe Haye was ever serious about making it.

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                  • yoz
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    So most of the contenders are ducking him? Have you ever thought they are ducking Haye as well? Not because they are scared or anything, but because it's high-risk, low reward.

                    Like pulev, who was offered a shot, turned it down for a fight against Fury for the final eliminator. Fury obviously dropped out for whatever reason, but can you see it wouldn't make sense for Pulev to fight Haye?

                    Btw, nobody is ducking Wlad, he should just pay them more than £100.000 like he did Chisora.
                    What you write is contradictory. In the first paragraph, you say, yes, they may be ducking Wladimir, but also David Haye.

                    Then in the final sentence you claim 'nobody' is ducking Wladimir.

                    Back on topic, it's win:win for Haye. With a victory he improves his ranking and moves closer to another title fight loss. He also gets one hell of a pay day.

                    He'll have also beaten Team Klitschko to the Fury fight. I know they were keen on a match-up this year.

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                    • yoz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Weebler II
                      I can see how it would make sense for Haye not to fight Pulev, but why wouldn't Pulev fight Haye? It would surely be his biggest payday. I don't believe he turned that fight down and I don't believe Haye was ever serious about making it.
                      I can't, aside from money. With a victory, he'd have been mandatory for Wladimir.

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