Comments Thread For: Garcia vs. Judah Rematch in Talks For The Fall?

[SnakeVen0m]

Team DSG need to stop the bull**** and just sign the contract.

[hitking]

Yesterday you made the argument that GBP should match Broner up against Mosley as a way to add to his star-power and cross him over into the mainstream. Would Garcia/Broner happen instead of Broner/Mosley, or in addition to?

How does GBP justify linking Garcia/Matthysse together for almost a year and then all of a sudden adding Broner into the equation? Broner follows up one title opportunity he doesn't deserve, with....another title opportunity he doesn't deserve? I mean dayum lol. Adrien Broner, 4 titles in 4 weights classes at the age of 23, oh lawd.

Let me clarify my position on Broner-Mosley. The only way it makes sense is it were to happen on the Floyd-Canelo undercard because it would serve as a springboard to cross Broner over to the mainstream and casual fans. There will be no bigger stage in boxing than Floyd-Canelo. And Mosley is a big name among casual fans. Just like Canelo fighting Mosley on the Floyd-Cotto undercard went a long way in crossing him over and making him an attraction that's gonna do monster numbers with Floyd. But the only way Broner-Mosley makes sense is on THAT card.

As for my stance on Broner-Garcia, AB going for a title in a 4th division and the trash talk that would inevitabley happen between the camps would make for a better promotion than either against Matthysse, who to my knowledge isn't fluent in English. Broner is a much bigger draw than Lucas. And Lucas doesn't even bring a belt to the table. Which is meaningless when it comes to Garcia-Matthysse. But explains why it would make more sense for Broner to drop down and fight Garcia rather than Matthysse. The 4th world title attempt would make for a more intriguing storyline.

[hitking]

Exactly, the moment Bob Arum, Haymon, GBP, and etc got fans to think like PROMOTERS, boxing was doomed!!

Fans saying crap like it's a business!!! Yes a business where u are paying ur money for, and getting a crap product in return = fight.

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In the end, if you feel like you're getting a crap product don't pay your money. Fans complain as if these people are forcing you to buy their product.

And in order to make sense of a lot of the moods that are made, you have to think like a promoter. That comes from being a long time fan. Would it be nice to live in a world where a boxer looking for an opponent picked up the latest version of Ring magazine and went after the best available guy. But that's not always the best career move. So why rack your brain worrying about who's ducking whom. Its not always ducking. Sometimes the fight fans want most just doesn't make sense at the moment.

[kiaba360]

Let me clarify my position on Broner-Mosley. The only way it makes sense is it were to happen on the Floyd-Canelo undercard because it would serve as a springboard to cross Broner over to the mainstream and casual fans. There will be no bigger stage in boxing than Floyd-Canelo. And Mosley is a big name among casual fans. Just like Canelo fighting Mosley on the Floyd-Cotto undercard went a long way in crossing him over and making him an attraction that's gonna do monster numbers with Floyd. But the only way Broner-Mosley makes sense is on THAT card.

As for my stance on Broner-Garcia, AB going for a title in a 4th division and the trash talk that would inevitabley happen between the camps would make for a better promotion than either against Matthysse, who to my knowledge isn't fluent in English. Broner is a much bigger draw than Lucas. And Lucas doesn't even bring a belt to the table. Which is meaningless when it comes to Garcia-Matthysse. But explains why it would make more sense for Broner to drop down and fight Garcia rather than Matthysse. The 4th world title attempt would make for a more intriguing storyline.

So Broner/Garcia would headline its own Showtime Championship card. I still think that it would be fucked up for Matthysse to get pushed to the side like that. I just hope that the WBC protects LM's interests and strips Garcia so he can get his title shot. And it's possible that LM could fight the winner of Broner/Garcia.

Saying all of that, I still think Garcia would be classified as ducking. Broner might be a bigger fight, but Mayweather IS the fight that everyone from 135-160 wants, so I couldn't be mad at Garcia if he takes advantage of that once-in-lifetime opportunity. Garcia/Broner/Matthysse are on the B-level, with Broner's hype outdoing the quality of opposition he's faced.

[hitking]

So Broner/Garcia would headline its own Showtime Championship card. I still think that it would be fucked up for Matthysse to get pushed to the side like that. I just hope that the WBC protects LM's interests and strips Garcia so he can get his title shot. And it's possible that LM could fight the winner of Broner/Garcia.

Saying all of that, I still think Garcia would be classified as ducking. Broner might be a bigger fight, but Mayweather IS the fight that everyone from 135-160 wants, so I couldn't be mad at Garcia if he takes advantage of that once-in-lifetime opportunity. Garcia/Broner/Matthysse are on the B-level, with Broner's hype outdoing the quality of opposition he's faced.

Personally, I only classify something a "duck" when a fighter takes a lesser fight. Broner is a bigger fight for Garcia (and visa versa) than Matthysse. So I'd be hard pressed to criticized either if that were the move.

Either way, if Garcia went ahead with the Judah fight, he'd be stepping dangerously close to the duckzone. The only way I wouldn't ultimately classify it as a duck is if Danny ended up being Floyd's next opponent. Then it would be Danny simply held out for the ultimate prize. Of course, if he does rematch Judah, I'm sure we'll hear that Judah beat Matthysse about a million times in the promotion. LOL!!

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If this happens Angel and Danny will be crushed by the fans/reporters.

They bettee take the fight or they ****ed.

[kiaba360]

Personally, I only classify something a "duck" when a fighter takes a lesser fight. Broner is a bigger fight for Garcia (and visa versa) than Matthysse. So I'd be hard pressed to criticized either if that were the move.

Either way, if Garcia went ahead with the Judah fight, he'd be stepping dangerously close to the duckzone. The only way I wouldn't ultimately classify it as a duck is if Danny ended up being Floyd's next opponent. Then it would be Danny simply held out for the ultimate prize. Of course, if he does rematch Judah, I'm sure we'll hear that Judah beat Matthysse about a million times in the promotion. LOL!!

I wouldn't be opposed to Broner/Garcia (WBA) and Matthysse/Postol (WBC) on the same card. The least I ask for is that LM fights for a title next.

[hitking]

If this happens Angel and Danny will be crushed by the fans/reporters.

They bettee take the fight or they ****ed.

So was Tim Bradley for not fighting Khan. Then he turned around and made about $5M to fight Pacquaio. If in the next year or so Danny lands a fight with Floyd and makes $5M+ or a fight with Broner and doubles a maybe even triples what he'd get to fight Matthysse. I'm sure he would get over the criticism rather quickly.

[hitking]

I wouldn't be opposed to Broner/Garcia (WBA) and Matthysse/Postol (WBC) on the same card. The least I ask for is that LM fights for a title next.

If Matthysse doesn't get Broner or Garcia next, I think Maidana at 147 makes the most sense for obvious reasons.

[bojangles1987]

Crazy, but If Danny is really that fearful of Matthyese then he should just leave 140 all together and move up to 147..

Matthysse would find him at 147.