Would a healthy Haye beat Wlad

[boliodogs]

Haye will never get hired as a foot model. Those are two ugly feet.

[JAB5239]

Has your foot ever been swollen like that?

You simply avoid the point when it doesn't suit you, huh? And still no proof of anything broken, just your amateur opinion from a photo.

[HughJass]

Has your foot ever been swollen like that?

[-Lowkey-]

If you are going to troll atleast make it either funny or original this is complete dross.

[White_Knight]

Although Haye doesn't have any excuse because his toe was anaesthetised and he wouldn't have felt a thing, Wlad does have an excuse (not that he needs one because he won) - he was 35. Imagine what the scorecards would have been if they had fought when they first supposed to, when Wlad fought Chagaev after Haye pulled out with a "back injury". Wlad was 32 at the time and the fight would have been a shut out.

[LacedUp]

I personally don't think any version of Haye beats prime Wlad. He just couldn't do enough in the first fight. I would still like to see the sequel for some reason, even though the first was a stinker. They both seemed too afraid of engaging with each other, so Wlad won the fight with his jab.

The best chance Haye has of a win, is to go gung-ho and hope he catches Wlad before he gets caught himself. He needs to be a lot more agressive, and use his reach. If i'm not mistaken I think Haye actually has a longer reach than Wlad, but he stays too far away to use it. Wrong tactics to use, because Wlad is more mobile than you would think. And once you get caught by that right hand once, you don't want to get caught again. Vitali is a better fit for Haye.

One thing I do like though, is most of the nuthuggers come out with crap like: "Haye would get KO'd in 3 rounds in a rematch" or "He didn't get KOd because he was running around like a headless chicken" - Trying to make out Wlad is some kind of stalking beast in the GGG mould. He didn't even KO Mormeck/Pianeta in 3 rounds! A lot of people are hating on Haye and the only reason they can find for him not getting KOd was because he was running, when in fact he was on the ropes with his hands by his side.

Wladimir beat him. He's the better fighter. But he didn't exactly go toe-to-toe himself.

[shade darkar]

haye could beat wlad i reckon, but he needs to be more aggressive if that fight does happen again. was far too timid last time.

[lparm]

You simply avoid the point when it doesn't suit you, huh? And still no proof of anything broken, just your amateur opinion from a photo.

The point is this, the Haye training camp said he broke bones now no one can disprove or prove it so it's all down to opinions of everyone including part time bartenders from NC. Prove it that Haye did not have broken bones...you can't just like no one can prove he did its all about opinions.

[JAB5239]

The point is this, the Haye training camp said he broke bones now no one can disprove or prove it so it's all down to opinions of everyone including part time bartenders from NC. Prove it that Haye did not have broken bones...you can't just like no one can prove he did its all about opinions.

No doctors report saying anything was broken. No X-rays showing a break, and no problem moving as he did so the entire fight. The burden isn't on me to prove anything, I haven't made a ridiculous claim about him having "broken bones". I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that swelling can occur without a broken bone.

[lparm]

No doctors report saying anything was broken. No X-rays showing a break, and no problem moving as he did so the entire fight. The burden isn't on me to prove anything, I haven't made a ridiculous claim about him having "broken bones". I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that swelling can occur without a broken bone.

Am I making a ridiculous claim or am I simply stating what the Haye camp said?

There is a vast difference between our opinions and the opinions of the people inside the Haye camp working with him daily. Now unless your proof includes evidence that you were closely associated with Haye before and shortly after the Wlad fight all you offer is an opinion. That's the truth beyond a shadow of a doubt.