Manny Pacquiao chin will no longer be the same, read this about punch resistance

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  • hectari
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    Manny Pacquiao chin will no longer be the same, read this about punch resistance

    This is an article about MMA fighter Roy Nelsons granite chin, but its a good read. They ask a Doctor about ability to take a punch. this is why Pacman will never be the same again he was concussed out cold for the first time in his life, being knocked out cold is much different than being knocked out but still awake. He will never be the same

    And once you get knocked out the first time, you’re definitely more susceptible to getting knocked out again; you’re more vulnerable to worse concussions. The theory is that, although your body can reset those ionic concentrations inside and outside the cell, each time that happens, maybe it loses a little bit of its efficiency. So your ability to recover isn’t quite as good as it was before that happened. So it’s like you have a gate, it gets broken, and you repair it but the repair might not be quite as strong as the original and it never holds together as well as it once did.

    This is the reason I believe boxing is far more dangerous than MMA. I’ve been the ringside doctor for many boxing and MMA matches, and I have no doubt that boxing is more dangerous than MMA. The whole point of MMA is that there are multiple targets, multiple ways to attack and I don’t think there’s quite as many repetitive blows to the head as you see in boxing. That’s the only target and the only weapon is your fist and it’s going to the same spot every time. When you look at the cumulative data, boxing has a higher risk of traumatic brain injury than we’re going to see in MMA. From a medical point of view, it’s still early to form conclusions about MMA, but just based on the actual blows to the head and the type of blows--boxing tends to be more circular based on the shape of the glove and the way the hands are taped; it’s a more circular blow. So you have a lot more of the rotational forces then you do in MMA, where the punches seem to be a little more linear.
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    there could be other reasons as well. I read an article; online I think, that said one of the ways you get over fear of needles is doing strenuous chin and neck exercises. Since the rios fight has VADA testing, and will surely involve needles, maybe he's been working on that.

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    • viperz007
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      #3
      getting Knockout like that the first time gives u phobia for the rest of your career...

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      • Fetta
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        #4
        Who cares! He choose a no win fight even if he wins

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        • Sugar Adam Ali
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          Totally agree with what the doc is saying.... Look at hatton, he could walk thru kosta tzysu and collazo but they were taking pieces of him little by little,,, Floyd ko'd him and that was the beginning of the end... Manny easily shredded him..

          Same can be said for cotto,,,all the wars slowly took a toll..

          Remember roy jones getting punched by tarver in the 1st fight, then getting iced in the 2nd round of the rematch... He took Glen johnson who was thought to be a tune-up journeyman but roy just couldnt deal with johnson's aggresiveness and got brutally ko'd again... And roy never was the same........

          Brandon rios may be able to do that with manny.... Rios may be manny's glen johnson

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          • T18Z
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            'Maybe it loses a bit of it's efficiency'

            I stopped reading at maybe.

            Unless there is a published, peer-reviewed cited scientific journal article on the topic which backs up the claim, I'm going to have to leave me judgement up to fight day. If he takes good shots from Rios, he'll be fine. The whole 'theory' (it's a theory, not really fact) is a bit wishy washy.
            Last edited by T18Z; 06-20-2013, 03:03 PM.

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            • hectari
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              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              Totally agree with what the doc is saying.... Look at hatton, he could walk thru kosta tzysu and collazo but they were taking pieces of him little by little,,, Floyd ko'd him and that was the beginning of the end... Manny easily shredded him..

              Same can be said for cotto,,,all the wars slowly took a toll..

              Remember roy jones getting punched by tarver in the 1st fight, then getting iced in the 2nd round of the rematch... He took Glen johnson who was thought to be a tune-up journeyman but roy just couldnt deal with johnson's aggresiveness and got brutally ko'd again... And roy never was the same........

              Brandon rios may be able to do that with manny.... Rios may be manny's glen johnson
              good points

              Rios rocked Alvarado back with a jab and busted his face up, Alvarado is huge compared to Manny, and Rios is huge compared to Manny as well. Rios could KO Manny out cold again, unless the year he has taken off is enough to help him recover which I doubt.

              As far as Cotto he never been knocked out cold, his chin is shakey but still sturdy, the guys who been put to sleep their chin has never been the same also the mental aspects of getting hit haunt them.

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              • Big_L
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                #8
                Originally posted by viperz007
                getting Knockout like that the first time gives u phobia for the rest of your career...
                when I was a kid, I busted my head on a diving board. ever since then I can't jump into a pool head first lol. I have a fear of that happening again. sounds crazy but it's real. I understand completely how you can have a fear of taking punches after getting knocked out.

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                • hectari
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                  Originally posted by T18Z
                  'Maybe it loses a bit of it's efficiency'

                  I stopped reading at maybe.

                  Unless there is a published, peer-reviewed cited scientific journal article on the topic which backs up the claim, I'm going to have to leave me judgement up to fight day. If he takes good shots from Rios, he'll be fine. The whole 'theory' (it's a theory, not really fact) is a bit wishy washy.
                  You do realize many of the scientific stuff is theory right?

                  the doctors theory on this makes a lot of sense, he speaks the truth man, just face it dudes chin is done. He was put out cold and anytime a guy is out cold they never have the same type of chin.

                  the previous times Pac was knocked out he was still awake so he could recover from those type of KO's.

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                  • itsafight
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                    #10
                    lol at this broscience.

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