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  • #41
    Originally posted by itsafight View Post
    He was a bit dissapointing against Bradley but we all know he really won that fight. And he was whooping that roided Marquez before the KO. Manny knows he juiced that's why they're putting in place more stringent testing.... If Marquez dared to face Manny natural he'll get his ass whooped and he knows it.
    Good call whiner keep it up. Just to rephrase your *****ing, he wasn't whooping Marquez. :*******::*******::****you:

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    • #42
      His decline is a combination of getting older, getting hit and boxing not being his prime objective any more. I think his political career has affected his boxing the most, he no longer trains like he used to, his work rate is average now and his accuracy has gone down quite a lot.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by piojo del norte View Post
        JMM won more rounds every single fight. JMM took Pacman to school the 3rd time that fight was like 9 round to 3,

        JMM is a better boxer than manny, JMM is a smarter fighter than manny, JMM is a more technical fighter than Manny, JMM has better skills.

        Manny is fast and explosive and very strong and awkward, but JMM is the better BOXER of the 2..
        Bolded: Now, you're reaching. All four fights were never lopsided in favor of any of the two.

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        • #44
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          Originally posted by piojo del norte View Post
          JMM won more rounds every single fight. JMM took Pacman to school the 3rd time that fight was like 9 round to 3,

          JMM is a better boxer than manny, JMM is a smarter fighter than manny, JMM is a more technical fighter than Manny, JMM has better skills.

          Manny is fast and explosive and very strong and awkward, but JMM is the better BOXER of the 2..
          Marquez knows how to fight Pac and his style are all wrong for Pac. Marquez counterpunched Pac beautifully but Pac landed more harder punches and was the one who always pressing the action.

          When you knocking down your opponent a few times and landed more harder punches and bringing the fights to the challenger, it was hardly a dominating fight in favor of the other. Marquez vs Pac fights, were the fights that could go to either way defending how you judges a fight.

          Boxing fans and judges always used the idea, the challenger should bring the fight to the champ if he wants to win but Marquez was always waited for Pac to punch so he can counterpunch. Pac could play safe by not fighting in Marquez favor like wait for him also to punch first then what? Now we have two fighters circling one another waiting for each other to punch first. No wonder the judges always favor those who press the action because they putting themselves into a vulnerable position.
          Last edited by straightleft; 06-19-2013, 03:54 AM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
            I think if you get some split-screen on the go you can see how much his workrate has declined. He's still very fast and he has those naturally heavy hands, but his body can't sustain that crazy movement anymore. And even taking the fact that Bradley was a bad style match-up for him into account, he still looked way more tired at the end of that fight than would previously hav been the case.

            It's only what you would expect though, he's an 18 year veteran who doesn't have a style that emphasizes self-preservation, and his game has always been built on an animal workrate during fights. It's only logical that a fighter of that nature is not going to stay at his best too long above the age of 30.
            yes to that.....

            simply put, pac had already had his runs (not saying he is totally finished) but once an athlete reached his peak he could only remain on that plateau for so long, specially if the wear and tear of so many fights begin to take its toll....once one is at his peak then there time comes the decline starts to show....

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            • #46
              All boxers decline except Pacquiao, he is almighty GOD.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by straightleft View Post
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                Marquez knows how to fight Pac and his style are all wrong for Pac. Marquez counterpunched Pac beautifully but Pac landed more harder punches and was the one who always pressing the action.

                When you knocking down your opponent a few times and landed more harder punches and bringing the fights to the challenger, it was hardly a dominating fight in favor of the other. Marquez vs Pac fights, were the fights that could go to either way defending how you judges a fight.

                Boxing fans and judges always used the idea, the challenger should bring the fight to the champ if he wants to win but Marquez was always waited for Pac to punch so he can counterpunch. Pac could play safe by not fighting in Marquez favor like wait for him also to punch first then what? Now we have to fighters circling one another waiting for each other to punch first. No wonder the judges always favor those who press the action because they putting themselves into a vulnerable position.
                Yeah lets ask Manny to box the better boxer lol.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  Both guys were going through the motions, compared to the other 3 fights. Numbers don't lie man, it was a close fight like the other 2.
                  No it wasn't. Marquez clearly won the fight, no way in hell Pacquiao did it. (But his "fans" is always trying to tell something else)

                  /greeh
                  Last edited by greeh; 06-19-2013, 05:24 AM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by greeh View Post
                    No it wasn't. Marquez clearly won the fight, no way in hell Pacquiao did it. (But his "fans" is always trying to tell something else)
                    And that's why the scoring was extremely close to 50/50 on all ringside scorers? Maybe if Marquez didn't coast the last few rounds he may have got the decision, but as it stands the 3 fights are all competitive, close fights, stop being ignorant and ignoring the obvious signs. It's got nothing to do with 'fans', check the global scoring and use your brain. I guess it's a coincidence that you claim Marquez clearly won it and also have Marquez in your signature as one of your favorite fighters... lol.
                    Last edited by T18Z; 06-19-2013, 05:28 AM.

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                    • #50
                      To those who thougt Pacquiao won the third fight. Could you do a RBR and give me a explanation how Pac won the fight? I would really like to see that because it seems like we havn't seen the same fights.

                      /greeh

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