Who Is the Worst Worst Managed Fighter?

[LacedUp]

you guys don't have to listen to NE, but goddamnit you have to listen to ray.

Haye owns his own company. He doesn't employ an external company to run his career. Read his interviews from his book or his bookazine where he's talking about starting Hayemaker promotions. It's based on keeping as much as possible in the fighters pockets.

Whilst I know that general management of boxers is often about 25-30%, you have absolutely no base to assume that when talking about a fighter with his own company.

You don't believe Ellerbe is getting a third do you?

[SkillspayBills]

I Do agree.

I always thought 'maybe he's just not comfortable doing direct camera work', but then you see him doing the on screen work for HBO and he seems extremely comfortable with it so it's strange. A top class American fighter with a great resume...even if people find his personality a bit boring, those other things should allow him to reach some level of' star status in the US.

Hollywood magic would take care of his personality. Look at Blake Griffin. Seems dull as hell but during his commercials he is comedic gold. Ward should be forcing his way onto our television screens.

[saintpat]

In his 4th year, Wilder was matched against people to keep his KO streak going. That's bad management, because when he finally faces someone who isn't easy to KO, he won't be ready.

Beck has lost ALL of his past 9, and been stopped in 8 of them.
Releford has lost 4 of his past 9, and been stopped in only 2.

At this point, Wilder should be going in with durable guys like Kevin Johnson and Dominick Guinn instead of the likes of Greer and old Audley.

Tyson Fury is younger, has fewer pro fights, and has less amateur experience than Wilder. Yet he's been given some good pro experience against tough journeymen like Maddalone, Firtha, Pajkic and Kevin Johnson.

David Price like Wilder has been badly managed. I was saying even before he was stopped by Thompson that Maloney didn't get him enough rounds in 2011 and 2012. And sure enough, when he finally fought someone who isn't easy to KO, he lost.

Releford won just two of 11 fights BEFORE someone started buying him wins against guys with 3-3 and 5-10 records. So he won a few setups, while Beck wasn't given any setups. Doesn't make Releford relevant -- if Wilder had fought him people would be posting just want I did, that he was a guy at the end of his rope that got a few gimmes to make him look viable when he isn't.

Wilder had about a year of international experience, while Fury was fighting for England or Ireland in international competition from 2006-08. Wilder won the Olympic Trials with 21 total fights, the first 10 or so were against novice competition while just starting out.

Wilder is on a slower path, no doubt, but it has been by design. He has beaten journeymen and has a good win over Kelvin Price -- a better win than anything on David Price's record -- and is gradually stepping up. The plan has been to ake him slowly while also getting him world-class sparring as he learns the game: he's been in camp with Wlad and also had Malik Scott in his camp for a week or two, among others.

I don't think he has been mismanaged -- if the plan was to have him ready to fight for a title by now, yes, but that hasn't been the plan. I know we live in a microwave society where everybody wants their popcorn right now, but a more deliberate path is not necessarily a bad thing.

[xLuKeYx]

I've been screaming Andre Ward in this thread for a while. Well, guess who is apparently leaving their promoter? Yep, you got it, Ward agrees with me.

[Pony Boy]

Yuriorquis Gamboa

[NoLove]

Dirrell, no question. Worst managed ever.

[Slip Stream]

Kell brooke...

So much talent but fights bum after bum..

Ditto is as ditto does.....

[Weebler I]

Totally disagree, for a guy with almost no boxing skills at all, Maidana has done very well to get the money and exposure he has

Not really. Maidana is one of the most exciting fighters in the entire sport.

The likes of GBP and TR will protect and cherry-pick for domestic fighters but those exciting fighters who are truly capable of capturing the attention of the sporting world such as Maidana and Matthysse are thrown to the wolves.

[Mr Randy Watson]

james kirkland... fightin 3 times in a matter of 2 months or something right before the ishida fight?? terrible management.

[Flash13]

LMAO WHAT!?!? Tyson seemed like he was a cold blooded killer. His in ring persona shaped his outside persona.

Your thinking about the 90s... After his stint in jail. Watch a tyson documentary pre jail and then tell me what you think. I clearly said in my post in the 80s when he was the most popular athlete on the planet by far.