How many of you think that Angulo quit

[THE REED]

reed posted yesterday that he doesn't consider it quitting if an athlete gets hurt and can't compete anymore. that is how I viewed angulo and ortiz-fighters that got hurt and couldn't compete anymore because of the injury-as opposed to not competing while physically being able to. thats how I differentiate quitting.

since its clear his injury wasnt what I posted I am wrong here.

But you have an ass backward way of twisting events into favor your argument.

Ortiz quit because clearly he couldn't continue because his injury was bad enough, Abrahams wasn't because he continued.

That is the dumbest logic ever.

How about Abraham has bigger balls than Ortiz?

Pretty similar god damn injuries if I do say so myself.

A physical inability is a torn achilles and not being able to run... that's not a mental state, thats a physical INABILITY.

Pain tolerance is just that PAIN TOLERANCE, and it varies.

NOBODY can run with a torn achilles.

SOME PEOPLE can gut through pain and others can't... thats a matter of will power.

Some boxers quit with a broken hand, others gut through it. Some quit with a broken jaw, others gut through it. Some quit when their eye hurts, others would rather die in the ring than quit.

Angulo quit, whether he had a broken orbital bone or not. Period, end of.

[D-MiZe]

reed posted yesterday that he doesn't consider it quitting if an athlete gets hurt and can't compete anymore. that is how I viewed angulo and ortiz-fighters that got hurt and couldn't compete anymore because of the injury-as opposed to not competing while physically being able to. thats how I differentiate quitting.

since its clear his injury wasnt what I posted I am wrong here.

It depends on who decides that he can't compete anymore.

If it's the athlete, he's quitting.

Unless there is a verb that describes what he did that isn't the same as quit.

[D-MiZe]

Not anymore it's not, D-Mize.

Instead of using that word, we now say that "the participant of this pugilistic contest willfully withdrew himself from competition due to an injury sustained during the bout which may or may not have had the potential to jeopardize his future earnings and functionality as a fighter and human being."

[ßringer]

You know what I quit?

This ****ing thread.

[The Big Dunn]

But you have an ass backward way of twisting events into favor your argument.

Ortiz quit because clearly he couldn't continue because his injury was bad enough, Abrahams wasn't because he continued.

That is the dumbest logic ever.

How about Abraham has bigger balls than Ortiz?

Pretty similar god damn injuries if I do say so myself.

A physical inability is a torn achilles and not being able to run... that's not a mental state, thats a physical INABILITY.

Pain tolerance is just that PAIN TOLERANCE, and it varies.

NOBODY can run with a torn achilles.

SOME PEOPLE can gut through pain and others can't... thats a matter of will power.

Some boxers quit with a broken hand, others gut through it. Some quit with a broken jaw, others gut through it. Some quit when their eye hurts, others would rather die in the ring than quit.

Angulo quit, whether he had a broken orbital bone or not. Period, end of.

Ortiz quit because clearly he couldn't continue because his injury was bad enough, Abrahams wasn't because he continued.

of course I didn't excatly say that.

I didn't twist a ****ing thing. I made it clear that if an injury makes you unable to continue its not quitting IMO. I didn't disagree with any point you made regarding pain tolerance. Obviously an achilles is an extreme example. but you imply that if its not an extreme injury then the fighter quit.

I dont agree.

But regarding angulo I was wrong.

[THE REED]

I made it clear that if an injury makes you unable to continue its not quitting IMO.

This is where you are wrong.

It IS quitting.

Because two fighters can get the SAME EXACT injury, one can fight through the pain and the other cannot.

The guy who couldnt deal with the pain, isn't quitting?

In what world?

Yeah, Im done.

Your view is warped.

[The Big Dunn]

It depends on who decides that he can't compete anymore.

If it's the athlete, he's quitting.

Unless there is a verb that describes what he did that isn't the same as quit.

I've given my position and i'm clearly in the minority when it comes to you, bringer and reed. I'm not arguing the definition of quitting.

[D-MiZe]

I'm not arguing the definition of quitting.

You are though, maybe you don't realise it.

You can't say, 'I don't see it as quitting' when the word describes exactly what it is. You can say, 'yes he quit but not because he didn't want anymore but because he was injured'.

I'm sure me, Bringer & Reed all share the same opinion that it was injury that caused Angulo to abandon his pursuit. However, I do get a small sense of frustration from him when he retired.

Don't fuck with the English language, son.

[D-MiZe]

You know what I quit?

This ****ing thread.

Perfect example here.

Bringer is quitting because his brain has been battered to mush by this thread, however, I'm persevering. It's an injury that has forced his retirement but he still quit.

...and listen motherfucker. Don't give me no Abraham shit here, we [I & Bringer] are both suffering from some form of neurological injury but my heart is pulling me through.

It's time like these that separate the casual posters from keyboard warriors and I have the heart of a warrior.

[THE REED]

Epic ending.

This thread has met its DMize.