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  • #71
    Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
    No, Portuguese is. But Portuguese is a Latin language and Spain and Portugal both share the Iberian peninsula together and their histories and culture are very closely related as is their languages.
    My parents are from Galicia and they speak a similar language that Portugal, as a matter of fact they shared the border and the difference is minimum...

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View Post
      I understand and I'm not coming down on you. Latino is a term given to the countries from the Latin region of Europe. Countries that spoke Latin based or romance languages.

      Brazil is included on that group. Even though people want to make "Latin" a race, it's not. I'm not Latin, I'm of Mexican descent, of American and Mexican nationality and Mestizo (mix between native indian and european blood).

      It gets complicated but Brazilians are technically latinos.
      Quite a lot of Mexicans also have some African ancestry.

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      • #73
        sanchez
        chavez
        duran
        de la hoya
        monzon

        jmm
        arguello
        kid gavilan
        olivare
        wilfrido gomez

        I think we should do a top 50 list, trying to pick 5 is ridiculous,
        mexican can't agreed on top ten, I can imagine doing it for latin america,

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        • #74
          Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
          Kid Gavilan, without a shadow of a doubt, is one of the top-five greatest Latino boxers of all time. The "Keed" fought long after his prime, but he was never stopped or even dropped. His final record was 108-30-5, but he went 10-17-1 in his last 28 fights. Gavilan is commonly considered one of the greatest welterweights of all time. He beat HOFers like Beau Jack, Billy Graham, Chuck Davey, Ike Williams, Carmen Basilio, and Gaspar Ortega. Gavilan went 25 total rounds with prime Ray Robinson, losing a controversial first meeting. In the fifties, when boxing enjoyed real popularity, "The Cuban Hawk" was a star on prime-time television. He's a legend.

          Rigondeaux, as I said earlier, was mentioned in jest. But, in all seriousness, if "El Chacal" had turned pro at a young age, we might've been discussing his greatness in such a conversation a few years from now.
          Gavilan was knocked down by Carmen Basillio and I think Ike Williams if memory serves me right.

          But I believe they were the only two times.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
            I defer to your expertise on these matters, Dan, so I won't argue Jofre versus Lopez; but I do believe that a fighter's greatness is diminished when they fought nearly all their bouts in their home country. (With apologies to all non-Americans, the only exception to this rule is if a boxer only fought in the United States.)

            What is your list?
            I see your point but how many gift decisions did he get in Brazil?

            I'd agree with you if his fights in his native country were similar to that of Sven Ottke.

            The only time a wrong decision was made IMO were the Harada fights, albeit, both close fights.

            My list off the top would be something like this

            1. Duran
            2. Arguello
            3. Monzon
            4. Ortiz
            5. Gavilan

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            • #76
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Gavilan was knocked down by Carmen Basillio and I think Ike Williams if memory serves me right.

              But I believe they were the only two times.
              I stand corrected. Gavilan was indeed down just twice in his career. First to Williams, then to Basilio. Good catch, Dan.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by migaledut View Post
                I don't have any mexican on my list. I got Duran, Monzon, Panama Al Brown, Alexis Arguello and Kid Gavilan. I do have Juan Manuel Marquez, Julio Cesar Chavez and Finito Lopez on the top 10 though. Post your list (only if you are being objective and educated enough on the topic to do it).
                Rigod has to be pretty high up on the list!

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by RiC-DiC View Post
                  1. Matthysse
                  2. JCC Jr = Rios
                  3. Martinez
                  4. Rigondeaux
                  5. Maidana = Gamboa
                  we are talking about ALL TIME not CURRENT..

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                    I stand corrected. Gavilan was indeed down just twice in his career. First to Williams, then to Basilio. Good catch, Dan.
                    Certainly one of the ATG chins, no question.

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                    • #80
                      Y'all got it all wrong.

                      1. Chris areolla
                      2. Victor Ortiz
                      3. John Ruiz
                      4. Mayorga
                      5. Canelo

                      Best ever 👍😁 hahahahahaha

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