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Top 5 best Latin American fighters of all time. Curious thing is that...
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Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View PostI understand and I'm not coming down on you. Latino is a term given to the countries from the Latin region of Europe. Countries that spoke Latin based or romance languages.
Brazil is included on that group. Even though people want to make "Latin" a race, it's not. I'm not Latin, I'm of Mexican descent, of American and Mexican nationality and Mestizo (mix between native indian and european blood).
It gets complicated but Brazilians are technically latinos.
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sanchez
chavez
duran
de la hoya
monzon
jmm
arguello
kid gavilan
olivare
wilfrido gomez
I think we should do a top 50 list, trying to pick 5 is ridiculous,
mexican can't agreed on top ten, I can imagine doing it for latin america,
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostKid Gavilan, without a shadow of a doubt, is one of the top-five greatest Latino boxers of all time. The "Keed" fought long after his prime, but he was never stopped or even dropped. His final record was 108-30-5, but he went 10-17-1 in his last 28 fights. Gavilan is commonly considered one of the greatest welterweights of all time. He beat HOFers like Beau Jack, Billy Graham, Chuck Davey, Ike Williams, Carmen Basilio, and Gaspar Ortega. Gavilan went 25 total rounds with prime Ray Robinson, losing a controversial first meeting. In the fifties, when boxing enjoyed real popularity, "The Cuban Hawk" was a star on prime-time television. He's a legend.
Rigondeaux, as I said earlier, was mentioned in jest. But, in all seriousness, if "El Chacal" had turned pro at a young age, we might've been discussing his greatness in such a conversation a few years from now.
But I believe they were the only two times.
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostI defer to your expertise on these matters, Dan, so I won't argue Jofre versus Lopez; but I do believe that a fighter's greatness is diminished when they fought nearly all their bouts in their home country. (With apologies to all non-Americans, the only exception to this rule is if a boxer only fought in the United States.)
What is your list?
I'd agree with you if his fights in his native country were similar to that of Sven Ottke.
The only time a wrong decision was made IMO were the Harada fights, albeit, both close fights.
My list off the top would be something like this
1. Duran
2. Arguello
3. Monzon
4. Ortiz
5. Gavilan
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostGavilan was knocked down by Carmen Basillio and I think Ike Williams if memory serves me right.
But I believe they were the only two times.
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Originally posted by migaledut View PostI don't have any mexican on my list. I got Duran, Monzon, Panama Al Brown, Alexis Arguello and Kid Gavilan. I do have Juan Manuel Marquez, Julio Cesar Chavez and Finito Lopez on the top 10 though. Post your list (only if you are being objective and educated enough on the topic to do it).
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