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  • #21
    Originally posted by Gypsy John Fury View Post
    The better fighter is the better fighter though. Even if Froch has fought consistently tougher opponents, Calzaghe was a far superior boxer. His win over Hopkins (albeit close) looks better with every year BHOP remains at the top. He absolutely smashed Lacy; but people often rubbish that win "oh Lacy was always ****". Lacy was Calzaghe's Bute moment which Froch gets massive (and deserved) credit for.
    The better fighter usually has the better resume. I am basing it on the RESUME. Calzaghe only really significant win is against Kessler.
    WTF did Lacy do after his loss? The dude is overhyped. And a past prime BHOP. Get real.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by sdcluser View Post
      The better fighter usually has the better resume. I am basing it on the RESUME. Calzaghe only really significant win is against Kessler.
      WTF did Lacy do after his loss? The dude is overhyped. And a past prime BHOP. Get real.
      Bute's not looking too clever at the minute...

      Calzaghe made lighter work of a primer Kessler after a few close rounds. And he beat Hopkins.

      I like Froch, he has fought consistently good opponents, but this doesn't make him a better fighter. The fact he got dominated by Ward and was lucky to get by Dirrell shows he would have struggled with Calzaghe IMO.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Rapid Counter View Post
        When Froch was a nobody calling out Calzaghe, Calzaghe didn't want anything to do with him and rightfully so....he hadn't proved himself. Now Groves and DeGale are in a similar position and Froch don't want anything to do with them. Froch says, "they have to prove themselves".

        Its a little thing I like to call "The circle of life" lol
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
        Quite a good point actually. Someone should address that to Carl, though I personally think he needs to cash in while he's healthy and not on the decline.
        He was asked about it on Ringside and pointed out that he was the WBC #1 contender and Calzaghe vacated rather than face him. He said that if Groves can earn the mandatory shot then he'll defend the belt against him.

        I don't blame Calzaghe for overlooking Froch, but the fact is Froch did all he could to make that fight, Groves on the other hand hasn't tried to become mandatory to any title and hasn't tried to face anyone worthwhile since the DeGale fight.

        Originally posted by mathed View Post
        When Froch reigns as champ for 10 years and has 21 successful title defenses, pretty much unifies the division, moves up to LHW and beats the Ring Champ, then and only then will I say his resume is close to Calzaghes.
        So wait, if after all the top guys he's already beaten Froch can now go on to do everything Calzaghe has done, he would still only be "close" to JC's resume?

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        • #24
          calzaghe wins imo but froch's resume is definitely greater

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          • #25
            Froch is a great champion but JC would win every time....easily!!!

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            • #26
              I think the majority of people would agree that Calzaghe at his best beats Carl at his best. it's Calzaghe's own fault his resume is so piss poor, that's what happens when you stay sheltered in your backyard for 10 years.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                Calzaghe would have beaten Froch IMO but his resume is definitely not better than Froch resume.
                check and check

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
                  quick question to guys saying froch has a better resume

                  how so?

                  he got a gift vs dirrell, yes andre fought like a bit...but still he did win that fight, even if he did it in a cowards way

                  his main wins have come against bute and a past prime kessler whom he lost the first time too

                  calzaghes main wins have come against an undefeated kessler, undefeated lacy and hopkins

                  I am not starting anything here but just want to know what people think

                  remember froch was also 10 seconds away from losing a decision vs taylor and was outclassed by ward and direll
                  The Hopkins win isn't really worth bragging about, it was a close fight and Hopkins was a Middleweight

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                  • #29
                    Calzaghe was quicker, he might have had an advantage there, but Froch clearly had the better legacy.

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                    • #30
                      I watched the Froch-Dirrell fight again last night. I turned the sound off and my opinion hasn't changed. Froch fought for most of fight what I call with ineffective aggressiveness and I easily scored the fight for Dirrell. My decision was not based on what Manny Stewart believed or what Dan Rafael thought was right it was based purely on what I saw with my own eyes. And what I witnessed was an easy win for Andre and just to be clear I can't stand him. A little side note. Many of the so called experts thought that Calzaghe had lost to Bhop and I thought Joe won that one by an easy UD.

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