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Hate is strong in this one!

Because their fake WW hero got stiffened by a guy Floyd toyed with , Floyd is fighting a unification bout against and undefeated JMW WC while Manny is fighting a bum loser from a lower division so he can break his losing streak the dude cant even fight a winner or a WW LOL , they go on about contradictions , take the test Rios or no fight LOL .

They hate Floyd because he is a winner and their fake is a loser its as simple as that .

[IronMike86]

an accommodation by both fighters hah how is that the fight is for a belt at 154 and thats a fact how is it an accommodation by Floyd what a joke would Floyde put his WW belt on the line at 150lbs that would be an accommodation please I am not Hating on Floyd just the fans that try to justify everything

Well for one, it's an accommodation because it isn't the typical catchweight that has tainted many title bouts: catchweights with re-hydration clause, catchweights will 4-9 pound disparities. 152 is not a typical catchweight, it's extremely minimal and therefore much more of a compromise than the typical "shot caller" would give.

Example? Pacquiao requiring Cotto to drain from 154 to 145. Making Margarito go down to 151.. De La Hoya had to go to 147.. These disparities can make a huge difference in a fight and really drain a fighter. We're talking about 7-9 lbs swings.. Mayweather Cotto is only a 2 pound drop from Canelo's typical weigh-in. How is that not an accommodation from a "shot-calling" p4p king that really could've asked Canelo to come down to welterweight and/or even put in a rehydration clause to futher his advantage?

[Da Machine]

Really? So 2 pounds lighter at the weigh-in with the ability to re-hydrate and bulk come fight-night really is going to take away from the fight? I don't think so.

Again, catch weights between these two weightclasses typically have a larger disparity (150 instead of 152, which is what Pacquiao usually did to his opponents moving down). Canelo only has to weigh in two pounds lighter than his normal fight weight, not 4. I think it's a decent compromise.

Canelo is only 23 three years old, his body will be ok with losing 2 additional pounds than he is accustomed to, especially when considering he can re-bulk immediately after the weigh-in. If Mayweather would've put a re-hydration clause in the contract, then that would've DEFINITELY took something away from the fight, because Canelo would've been drained.

Part of Floyd's criticism towards Manny's catchweights were because Manny would have rehydration clauses in his catchweights, and also would drain fighters like Cotto, who went from 154 to 147. That's 7 pound disparity, whereas with Mayweather-Canelo we're only talking TWO POUNDS.. Not comparable imo.

Canelo was 153.5 against Trout, Floyd is asking for 152, canelo can pi$$ those two pounds 5 minutes before the weight in, this are excuses because eveyone knows including his fans that he will lose, they cashing out because fraud is at the end of his career and they can't hide ginger in the jww division any longer, there's a few jmw waiting for him and a couple of MW expecting his incursion at that weight, they will say that he loss against the best fighter of this generation and that will be accuarate, but the bottom line is that ginger ain't $h1t and doesn't have the resume to be fighting Fraud, he is there because he is a red head Mexican...

Then why even have a cw if it wont have an affect?

[HeroBando]

Really? So 2 pounds lighter at the weigh-in with the ability to re-hydrate and bulk come fight-night really is going to take away from the fight? I don't think so.

Again, catch weights between these two weightclasses typically have a larger disparity (150 instead of 152, which is what Pacquiao usually did to his opponents moving down). Canelo only has to weigh in two pounds lighter than his normal fight weight, not 4. I think it's a decent compromise.

Canelo is only 23 three years old, his body will be ok with losing 2 additional pounds than he is accustomed to, especially when considering he can re-bulk immediately after the weigh-in. If Mayweather would've put a re-hydration clause in the contract, then that would've DEFINITELY took something away from the fight, because Canelo would've been drained.

Part of Floyd's criticism towards Manny's catchweights were because Manny would have rehydration clauses in his catchweights, and also would drain fighters like Cotto, who went from 154 to 147. That's 7 pound disparity, whereas with Mayweather-Canelo we're only talking TWO POUNDS.. Not comparable imo.

Wow I'm seeing a pattern. A brand new cowardly POS alt matter of factly states Pac used rehydration clauses. What are the chances it's the same old worm?

[HeroBando]

Well for one, it's an accommodation because it isn't the typical catchweight that has tainted many title bouts: catchweights with re-hydration clause, catchweights will 4-9 pound disparities. 152 is not a typical catchweight, it's extremely minimal and therefore much more of a compromise than the typical "shot caller" would give.

Example? Pacquiao requiring Cotto to drain from 154 to 145. Making Margarito go down to 151.. De La Hoya had to go to 147.. These disparities can make a huge difference in a fight and really drain a fighter. We're talking about 7-9 lbs swings.. Mayweather Cotto is only a 2 pound drop from Canelo's typical weigh-in. How is that not an accommodation from a "shot-calling" p4p king that really could've asked Canelo to come down to welterweight and/or even put in a rehydration clause to futher his advantage?

Are you fcuking kidding? You can't be this ignorant. You're hoping nobody notices in that wall of **** you put up each time?

[Da Machine]

Nobody wanted this fight at a catchweight. 2 Jr. Middle Champs should be able to fight each other at the Jr. Middle limit. No one is refuting that. But how long are you going to cry about it? Do you honestly think Canelo will be hindered or are you just using this as an excuse for when he loses a fight that you all thought he would win, because you blindly thought Floyd would not fight him? The only reason you all are crying is because you wanted the comfortability of saying that Floyd was afraid, because as long as they weren't fighting, you people were able to say that Floyd was ducking him and could say how Canelo would knock him out if they ever did fight. When the contract got signed, reality set in. You automatically gave up hope on Canelo because you knew you were talking out of your @ss. So you had to find something to hang on to to discredit a Floyd win over a fighter you claimed he would of been beaten by. So, they both have advantages. Canelo is still going to outweigh him by 20 pounds on the night of the fight. And Floyd will have an advantage that in the back of Canelo's mind, he's gotta lose those extra 2 pounds. It's either catchweight or no fight, which would you prefer?

I think Canelo is a good fighter and has a chance. Like someone else said. His size advantage is a big factor on why this fight was intriguing. It just makes no sense to have a cw unless you need the advantage.

To answer your question. Yes, I think the cw will have somewhat of a hindrance. Canelo is a big guy. He's two years older and filling out. 2 lbs is a lot of extra work when you are taking about draining water weight and pushing the limit to how low you can go.

I just hope his nutritionist and trainers can make it happen in a healthy way.

The thing is. We probably will never know if it hindered him. If he loses big then it's just Floyd dominating like usual. The whole thing just leaves that ounce of doubt in people's minds.

[boliodogs]

Floyd made a big deal about Pacquiao draining Cotto and then does the same thing to Canelo. Floyd says whatever he thinks makes him look good but he does not even believe what he is saying himself. He threw all that stuff about fighting guys at their most comfortable weight out the window when it came to fighting Canelo. He first wanted to fight Canelo at 147 and later 150 but team Canelo said no and they finally settled on 152. Floyd holds the WBA super champ title at 154 and he should defend it at that weight. Canelo said he will be fine at 152 so I believe him. He is a smart, dedicated fighter and he is working with good people including a nutritionalist. He won't be weight lifting for this fight so he will have less muscle weight to make it easier to make 152 without hurting his speed or punching power. He seems to be a man of honor and he agreed to weigh 152 so I believe he will try to make that weight rather than deliberately come in at 154. Time will tell.

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Floyd made a big deal about Pacquiao draining Cotto and then does the same thing to Canelo. Floyd says whatever he thinks makes him look good but he does not even believe what he is saying himself. He threw all that stuff about fighting guys at their most comfortable weight out the window when it came to fighting Canelo. He first wanted to fight Canelo at 147 and later 150 but team Canelo said no and they finally settled on 152. Floyd holds the WBA super champ title at 154 and he should defend it at that weight. Canelo said he will be fine at 152 so I believe him. He is a smart, dedicated fighter and he is working with good people including a nutritionalist. He won't be weight lifting for this fight so he will have less muscle weight to make it easier to make 152 without hurting his speed or punching power. He seems to be a man of honor and he agreed to weigh 152 so I believe he will try to make that weight rather than deliberately come in at 154. Time will tell.

He didn't make a big deal ya goose , he made a comment in answering a question , he is not doing the same thing with Canelo because Canelo is bigger than Cotto , the equivalent would need to be 4 pound like Manny did to Margo .

For fck sake decipher the numbers into real world terms instead of just seeing a number , understand what it means in a fighter and then to a particular fighter because its not the same for all .

[HeroBando]

He didn't make a big deal ya goose , he made a comment in answering a question , he is not doing the same thing with Canelo because Canelo is bigger than Cotto , the equivalent would need to be 4 pound like Manny did to Margo .

For fck sake decipher the numbers into real world terms instead of just seeing a number , understand what it means in a fighter to a particular fighter because its not the same for all .

True, Marg spent all his career at 147 pretty much, was a pro at draining. Canelo couldn't make a 150 CW several years back, when he was 21. I hear red headed Mexicans get smaller between 21 and 23

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True, Marg spent all his career at 147 pretty much, was a pro at draining. Canelo couldn't make a 150 CW several years back, when he was 21. I hear red headed Mexicans get smaller between 21 and 23

Another flip flop LOL , Margo killed himself to make 147 , got kicked out for 2 yrs and blew up , fought at 154 , if you you know anything about boxing he aint ever going back to 147 , once you pack on that weight as an older fighter you aint going back , Margo needed Diuretics to make 150 that tells the story .

Do yourself a favor and leave your monitor and give the sport a go even just a handful of amateur bouts will give you a better clue than you have now .