Do people realize how good Matthew Macklin is?

[King_]

Was Andre Ward knocked out cold on his face like Macklin was?

What I'm getting at is, knocking out Macklin is not overly impressive. He won't be the first and he most likely won't be the last.

Macklin's a decent fighter, when Golvokin knocks him out he will get credit from me and deserve credit. It just isn't a win that will "prove he's elite" because Macklin is good but simply not that good.

Like D-Mize said, the odds of this being under 8 rounds is 1/2. That speaks volumes.

No he won't... But if it took Martinez 10 rounds to KO this guy who's there to be KOd and Sturm went life and death with him (mind you this was all in the past year) hypothetically, how could a lets say... 3rd round KO not be impressive?

Similar to the ishida thing. KOing ishida on paper doesn't exactly make a guy "elite" but when you consider the fact that Ishida fought in the past 2 years prior to GGG, Kirkland, Williams and Pirog and NONE of them were able to drop him period, yet GGG KOd him inside 4..... That made it somewhat impressive.

Is this not a similar situation? It's not the fact he's simply winning or KOing a guy, he's doing something that Other TOP fighters were not able to do, or in quicker or more impressive fashion. I don't see how you can't use that as somewhat of a small measuring stick to say he's elite.


To you those odds may speak volume about Macklin. But to me it just speak volumes on GGG.... Macklin is a legit top 10 MW IMO.

[TOBYLEE1]

IMO triple G will KO Macklin but he is still a solid fighter. I like Murray better to trouble any MW

[IronDanHamza]

No he won't... But if it took Martinez 10 rounds to KO this guy who's there to be KOd and Sturm went life and death with him (mind you this was all in the past year) hypothetically, how could a lets say... 3rd round KO not be impressive?

Similar to the ishida thing. KOing ishida on paper doesn't exactly make a guy "elite" but when you consider the fact that Ishida fought in the past 2 years prior to GGG, Kirkland, Williams and Pirog and NONE of them were able to drop him period, yet GGG KOd him inside 4..... That made it somewhat impressive.

Is this not a similar situation? It's not the fact he's simply winning or KOing a guy, he's doing something that Other TOP fighters were not able to do, or in quicker or more impressive fashion. I don't see how you can't use that as somewhat of a small measuring stick to say he's elite.


To you those odds may speak volume about Macklin. But to me it just speak volumes on GGG.... Macklin is a legit top 10 MW IMO.

Yeah it will be impressive. I didn't deny it will be impressive. It will be a good win, his best win by far.

It just won't confirm he's elite.

If he fights and beats Martinez in impressive fashion then it will.

I've always said that Golovkin has a lot of potential.

[IronDanHamza]

IronDan a Barker fan.

The assumptions are insane. And so often.

The thing with Barker is, I don't even dislike the guy. I think he's a good fighter too.

I just think it's ridiculous that Martinez fans try and deny what was such an obvious and clear cherrypick and one of the most blatent cherry picks in recent memory and possibly ever for a Top P4P fighter.

So it comes off like I dislike Barker, but I don't. I think he's a good fighter and I'll be rooting for him against Geale.

[D-MiZe]

It's not as black and white as 'Macklin is a top 10 middleweight'.

Butterbean could've been a top 10 heavyweight at some point but you distinguish that fighter on their skillset, abilities, performances rather than a ranking. As it is, Macklin is the sort of fighter that won't be hard to find, doesn't have that great skillset and isn't particularly that durable.

The call of Golovkin, much like Rigondeaux, is to fight the best in his division - not contenders. If you looked at Golovkin's resume, you'd think it ludicrous he should challenge the #1 160lb fighter. But as I said, there are many more qualities to a fighter than his BoxRec record and rank.

[Chrismart]

I rate Macklin, i think hes a good fighter. And think that he may look good in this one early doors, but i can't see past a GGG stoppage once he figures Macklin out.

[Wenger Is God]

What exactly are you talking about?

The official rules where you score clean punches landed, effective aggression, ring generalship and defence - all of which Martin Murray displayed against Martinez. He also scored two knockdowns.

Whereas Macklin got KOed after a few decent rounds.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Its a shame how Macklin still gets slept on nowadays. So Sergio stops him late, and suddenly, people write him off.

For starters, Sergio isn't that great of a fighter to the point where most (or all of his opponents) are never the same after he fights them.

It's amazing how GGG automatically gets the W for fights that he hasn't even fought yet. Smh

[Tom Cruise]

Its a shame how Macklin still gets slept on nowadays. So Sergio stops him late, and suddenly, people write him off.

For starters, Sergio isn't that great of a fighter to the point where most (or all of his opponents) are never the same after he fights them.

It's amazing how GGG automatically gets the W for fights that he hasn't even fought yet. Smh

Jamie Moore also stopped him

[Frank Ducketts]

Doesn't the fact that a top 10 MW who people are expexting to get dusted just speak on the talent/potential GGG possesses though?


I'm not sure what is going on here but everyone was begging nothing but 2 months ago for GGG to fight someone the caliber of Macklin.

So the only way a victory for GGG would speak volumes about his talent is if he fights Martinez, Ward or Canelo, correct?

NSB logic: where top 10 fighters don't count




Before this fight was made people like you said calm the hype down til he steps up, he's stepping A, B) you yourself said in another thread that the fight hasn't even happened yet so stop acting like he won already....... Yet now a month later as the fight gets closer, you're already trying to discredit this potential victory by saying its "expected?"


Strong agenda.

It's a step up, not the ice breaker.