Do people realize how good Matthew Macklin is?

[King_]

Macklin the elite level fighter. That's funny.

The same guy who was knocked flat on his face by Jamie Moore.

And in regards to Macklin "winning more rounds on the cards" compared to Barker, that may be true but if you watch the fights it's clear Barker did better than he did.

Macklin did worse out of the 3.

Murray won more rounds on the cards than Macklin against Sturm. Who did better really?

Macklin is decent, at best. Golovkin is going to destroy him and possibly relive the Jamie Moore KO level of brutality

Andre ward went down against Darnell Boone, yet he's the #1 SMW in the world so what's your point?

It's funny people are already trying to discredit Macklin, those SAME people are the ones who were pleading for GGG to step up and fight someone like Macklin just a couple of months ago...


I don't know what your definition of "elite" is but Matthew Macklin is certainly a top 10 middleweight.. This is a guy who gave Martinez a hell of a fight, and gave Sturm a hell of a fight, Sturm and Martinez are top 10 MWs as well, so how could an early destruction and even more impressive/decisive victory against Macklin then Sturm/Martinez NOT be saying something about GGG?

The truth is any kind of early round KO (which some people are predicting) would be VERY impressive. I can just see it now...6/30/13 threads all over NSB declaring Macklin a "euro bum"

I'm not saying Macklin is P4P, but I really don't understand what you're getting at here? An early round KO like you're predicting against a top 10 MW who gave Martinez/Sturm everyhing then can handle says something about GGG, that doesn't mean Macklin sucks

[Frank Ducketts]

Outside of Paul Williams he gave both Sergio and Sturm(yes Macklin was better than Geale, Murray, Cintron despite the decisions they got) their toughest and closest fights of the past 5+ years. Macklin is a legitimate Top 5 MW with real talent.

If GGG is able to beat Macklin or possible KO it would speak volumes iit would confirm the elite talent everyone sees

LMMFAO!
It might speak volumes to you, but not real boxing fans. Macklin is a tough guy, but he's being fed to the wolves.

[King_]

It might not even go to the mid rounds in all honesty.

It's a step up for Golovkin and Macklin is a decent solid Top 10 fighter but this is a miss match.

What are you trying to argue here?

All OP said was that if GGG KOs Macklin it would confirm his elite status. That's not true? The only other thing he said was Macklin is a legit top 5 MW, and id say top 10.

The fact that a "decent solid top 10 fighter" is a mismatch to GGG just shows how good GGG is/can be.

to be honest to me it just sounds like you're a bit upset GGG is fighting Macklin instead of Barker who's probably one of your favorite fighters. I could be wrong.

(No hate)

[King_]

LMMFAO!
It might speak volumes to you, but not real boxing fans. Macklin is a tough guy, but he's being fed to the wolves.

Doesn't the fact that a top 10 MW who people are expexting to get dusted just speak on the talent/potential GGG possesses though?


I'm not sure what is going on here but everyone was begging nothing but 2 months ago for GGG to fight someone the caliber of Macklin.

So the only way a victory for GGG would speak volumes about his talent is if he fights Martinez, Ward or Canelo, correct?

NSB logic: where top 10 fighters don't count




Before this fight was made people like you said calm the hype down til he steps up, he's stepping A, B) you yourself said in another thread that the fight hasn't even happened yet so stop acting like he won already....... Yet now a month later as the fight gets closer, you're already trying to discredit this potential victory by saying its "expected?"


Strong agenda.

[IronDanHamza]

Andre ward went down against Darnell Boone, yet he's the #1 SMW in the world so what's your point?

It's funny people are already trying to discredit Macklin, those SAME people are the ones who were pleading for GGG to step up and fight someone like Macklin just a couple of months ago...


I don't know what your definition of "elite" is but Matthew Macklin is certainly a top 10 middleweight.. This is a guy who gave Martinez a hell of a fight, and gave Sturm a hell of a fight, Sturm and Martinez are top 10 MWs as well, so how could an early destruction and even more impressive/decisive victory against Macklin then Sturm/Martinez NOT be saying something about GGG?

The truth is any kind of early round KO (which some people are predicting) would be VERY impressive. I can just see it now...6/30/13 threads all over NSB declaring Macklin a "euro bum"

I'm not saying Macklin is P4P, but I really don't understand what you're getting at here? An early round KO like you're predicting against a top 10 MW who gave Martinez/Sturm everyhing then can handle says something about GGG, that doesn't mean Macklin sucks

Was Andre Ward knocked out cold on his face like Macklin was?

What I'm getting at is, knocking out Macklin is not overly impressive. He won't be the first and he most likely won't be the last.

Macklin's a decent fighter, when Golvokin knocks him out he will get credit from me and deserve credit. It just isn't a win that will "prove he's elite" because Macklin is good but simply not that good.

Like D-Mize said, the odds of this being under 8 rounds is 1/2. That speaks volumes.

[bojangles1987]

Golovkin is going to mess Macklin up badly and get Matthysse type hype afterwards. I can't wait.

[IronDanHamza]

What are you trying to argue here?

All OP said was that if GGG KOs Macklin it would confirm his elite status. That's not true? The only other thing he said was Macklin is a legit top 5 MW, and id say top 10.

The fact that a "decent solid top 10 fighter" is a mismatch to GGG just shows how good GGG is/can be.

to be honest to me it just sounds like you're a bit upset GGG is fighting Macklin instead of Barker who's probably one of your favorite fighters. I could be wrong.

(No hate)

No, I don't think it's true.

Macklin's a good fighter and it's a good fight for Golovkin and I'm glad he's taking it. Macklin's a top 10 MW and a good fighter. But it's not the kind of fight that confirms elite status.

The last part is quite the assumption. And way off.

Both decent fighters but I'm not a fan of Barker nor Macklin.

[D-MiZe]

'Oh, no one believed the Golovkin hype until he proved himself elite'

'Who did he prove himself elite against?'

'...Matt Macklin'

'...'

[IronDanHamza]

Doesn't the fact that a top 10 MW who people are expexting to get dusted just speak on the talent/potential GGG possesses though?


I'm not sure what is going on here but everyone was begging nothing but 2 months ago for GGG to fight someone the caliber of Macklin.

So the only way a victory for GGG would speak volumes about his talent is if he fights Martinez, Ward or Canelo, correct?

NSB logic: where top 10 fighters don't count




Before this fight was made people like you said calm the hype down til he steps up, he's stepping A, B) you yourself said in another thread that the fight hasn't even happened yet so stop acting like he won already....... Yet now a month later as the fight gets closer, you're already trying to discredit this potential victory by saying its "expected?"


Strong agenda.

When he destory's Macklin he will be a lot more deserving of the hype he's getting.

Then, if he manages to get hold of Martinez or someone of that calibur and destory's them, then he will have confirmed the hype.

Knocking out Macklin for the 3rd time of his career? Not so much.

[bojangles1987]

No, I don't think it's true.

Macklin's a good fighter and it's a good fight for Golovkin and I'm glad he's taking it. Macklin's a top 10 MW and a good fighter. But it's not the kind of fight that confirms elite status.

The last part is quite the assumption. And way off.

Both decent fighters but I'm not a fan of Barker nor Macklin.

IronDan a Barker fan.