IMO British Boxing fans create the best atmosphere @ fights

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #21
    Originally posted by D-MiZe
    Thanks for sharing, good to see the British fans made Ward feel at home!


    How come you don't attend many British fights? I know our quality of cards is lacking compared to the Americans but there are some great small hall shows at times and I could imagine the ticket prices being good too.
    No other reason than I don't really have time.

    If I want to go to a fight it's really hard to me to make time for it. A lot of hassel moving things around.

    A fight as big as Froch-Kessler 2 was something I couldn't miss.

    I'm going to try to go to more.

    If Brook-Khan get's made in the UK I will likely go to that.

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    • Weebler I
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      #22
      Originally posted by dorruel2.0
      nah Argentines do. Did you not see Martinez last fight, even he was overwhelmed
      The Argies take it a step too far.

      Tom Stalker (GB Olympic captain) account of Martinez v Murray:

      Never in my whole life have I felt so much excitement and fear at the same time. The crowd were fighting to get towards us, making death signs to us, spitting, throwing drinks. We were lucky that Neil Marsh had asked the security staff from the hotel who had been deputised to follow us to walk us to the ring. If they hadn't been around us, Martin might not have made it to the ring.

      To be honest, if he'd won I don't think we'd have made it out of there alive. It was already like being thrown to the lions. When the fight finished, the crowd went crazy and hundreds were diving into the ring wrecking it so we did well to get out.

      We all had to feel for Gary Buckland.

      The super-featherweight had done ten weeks training, flown 7,000 miles to fight Fernando Saucedo in a world title qualifier and got there to fight at 7.30pm only to be told he was going on later. He was waiting in the dressing room watching it on TV. But by the time the fans had finished with the ring, after Martin's fight, there was nothing left of it.

      They'd smashed all the wooden supports underneath and they had to cancel the fight because the ring wasn't fit to be used.
      It was massively frustrating for him. It was such a shame because the WBC silver was at stake and a chance to be ranked in the world's top 10.
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/

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        #23
        Don't get too smug Ray lest we remind you of PFP king Curry coming a cropper against the Honeymonster, or Lewis, or Benn or the last Olympics... - our little island (the US is 38 times bigger) definitely punches above its weight!

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        • D-MiZe
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          #24
          Originally posted by Ray Corso
          Ofcourse the name calling starts when the truth hurts! You know I get tired of hearing about B-class and second tier fighters from England and Europe being GREAT!!! We went through this years ago and it jumps up everytime some British promoters angles some "home fed" "ordinary talent" kid a shot at a title! We heard Hatton was an ATG, really! Now the Froch vs Kessler is an ATG match between two of the best "super" (ordinary) middleweights?
          If you learn to evaluate the skills used in boxing and if their prformed with a high degree of technical skills you'll foind that most of the young men are ordinary talents! I'm NOT attacking them personally everyone has a talent level that can be reached and we can't exceed our abilities but these young men are NOT highly talented thats all I'm saying and in regards to the way one of the best ATG Middleweight Champs was treated that counrty will be remembered for their actions!!!

          heres your responce dmize, imagine getting your azz kicked by a ****? haha

          your name calling just enhances why I think the Brit fans (ofcourse not all) are chanting, drunken wannabees! Ballz in numbers and safe ast home but when ventured in front of talent get the **** kicked out of them. Home cooking tasts great but stay their when your talent level isn't very high. Then maybe your fan bases will know who is a really high skilled talent from a club fighter to B-level competitor! Ordinary is ordinary and the ordinary can't see beyond themselves! Ray
          Calm down, my dear.

          It's a friendly jab, 'in the nicest way possible, you're a ****' is hardly an aggressive, malicious approach. I honestly thought, of all people, a man who's worked in the business would refrain from using the word bum.

          Ok, maybe you could use the term for a fighter who might actually fit that description, 4-50, 6-90, but no fighter that competes even at British domestic level is a bum nor should a boxer ever be called a coward.

          What's the shame in being B-class?

          If you know something to be true or not, it doesn't matter what others think. You may do your best to educate them but do not make yourself look so ignorant.

          Hagler was treated that way for a number of reasons, least not the fact that Britain had a large hooligan problem in the 70s and 80s which has been all but eradicated by now.

          If you were 40 years younger, I'd kick your arse.

          You seem quite arrogant too, the fact you've been in corners and around people in the sport that other people on this forum haven't. You take great pride in that, but who the fuck is Ray Corso? I've heard of Ray Arcel, no Ray Corso. Never heard of him, must be a journeyman spit bucket holder.

          See what I'm saying Ray? It's oh so disrespectful, you never reached the heights of the best in your profession, stop cussing those in others. I ain't got a problem with you, just telling you how it is.

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Weebler II
            The Argies take it a step too far.

            Tom Stalker (GB Olympic captain) account of Martinez v Murray:



            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/
            interesting read, but yes Argentines are the craziest diehard fans

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            • Ray Corso
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              #26
              Ocourse the easiest way to accept ignorance..............if I've never read it ..it doesn't exsist?

              The fact is I can name off a number of terrific trainers you never heard of the reason being your NOT in the boxing business! You don't have accredidations on "google" and you don't get experienced in the sport playing on forums! If you can't recongnize that I know what I'm talking about it just furthers the fact you know little!! And if I were 6 months dead you couldn't whip my azzz!

              There is NO shame in being a B-class fighter there IS shame when people can't tell the difference between top tier and B-class and consider B to be GREAT! If England had more boxing gyms and less "clubs" and way more "trainers and far less "coaches" you could develop more fighters!! Plus after their 18-0 take them to Italy or Germany to prepare them to come to the USA so when they get their shot their not "overwhelmed"! Ray

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                #27
                Originally posted by D-MiZe
                It's the culture over here.

                Get behind your man, win, lose or draw keep chanting their name, create a great atmosphere and just have a good time. It's not like a soccer game, it's like any sporting event over here apart from snooker or some boring ****, even 1000 darts fan make a better atmosphere than 20000 Americans

                We like to have a good time and show our support for our fighter, it's spirit, it's passion - how can you not like it? To truly understand what it's like, you have to be there. Watching/listening to it on TV just does not do it justice.
                This. ^

                I remember watching the weigh in for Hatton - Mayweather, no other fans in the world come close to making an atmosphere like that in my opinion.

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                • DeepSleep
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                  #28
                  When it comes to boxing the UK has us beat in terms of noise by a wide margin.

                  Our loudest venues are by far College football:



                  Happy Valley



                  The Horseshoe



                  Death Valley



                  The Swamp

                  Folks in the UK tend to watch our (mostly) quiet NFL crowds and think we don't get loud I think.

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                  • D-MiZe
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ray Corso
                    Ocourse the easiest way to accept ignorance..............if I've never read it ..it doesn't exsist?

                    The fact is I can name off a number of terrific trainers you never heard of the reason being your NOT in the boxing business! You don't have accredidations on "google" and you don't get experienced in the sport playing on forums! If you can't recongnize that I know what I'm talking about it just furthers the fact you know little!! And if I were 6 months dead you couldn't whip my azzz!

                    There is NO shame in being a B-class fighter there IS shame when people can't tell the difference between top tier and B-class and consider B to be GREAT! If England had more boxing gyms and less "clubs" and way more "trainers and far less "coaches" you could develop more fighters!! Plus after their 18-0 take them to Italy or Germany to prepare them to come to the USA so when they get their shot their not "overwhelmed"! Ray
                    Stop being so pedantic, you know the point I was trying to make...

                    Also, I think you're going senile Ray, on numerous times I've said that I appreciate the knowledge and stories you share with us. The sport isn't big over here at all, you should know a bit about the business side too. If you have a prospect and the TV channel is backing that prospect, special talent or contender - he's going to receive a huge amount of publicity and hype.

                    There is a reason why 'hypejob' is synonymous with British fighters and I don't like it. I know there are fighters in the works over here now that when they land in America, they'll end up a laughing stock for what people have said about 'em.

                    Nathan Cleverly is an absolute disgrace to the sport and an embarrassment to me as a boxing fan. Frank Warren is a business man and not one to take risks. He had a stranglehold on the sport here until the recent re-emergence of Matchroom who took several of his best fighters.

                    Clarify, you're being sarcastic with that 18-0 Italy/Germany comment, right?

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                    • Chrismart
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                      #30
                      I love the atmosphere of a big fight, its like the football over here..always electric. The atmopshere is a huge part of the event.
                      IMO a big sporting event that lacks in atmosphere is a huge let down.

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