Floyd & 154 & Politics

[dudeiknow]

I wasn't really making this all about Floyd if you read the entire thing it was more about the hypocrisy in boxing

my thread was about the money team, not just floyd in particular, this isnt right... someone should reverse the mod decision and put me back into green for being unfairly treated when i see people making new floyd threads every day

[WitherGlove]

my thread was about the money team, not just floyd in particular, this isnt right... someone should reverse the mod decision and put me back into green for being unfairly treated when i see people making new floyd threads every day

lol I don't know what to tell you man

[WitherGlove]

Floyd should fight Canelo at 154. If he wants to have a re hydration clause that says Canelo can't be over 170 or something, I'm cool with that.

I think Floyd will fight him and win despite having a major weight disadvantage

[Outwest Exp 355]

Its all about who you like. Some people will scream at guys like Broner and Floyd for not moving up multiple divisions. And in the same breathe they have no problem with guys like Canelo, PWill, and Margarito cutting 20 to 30 lbs to fight at the lower divisions. Plus I dont hear anybody lobbying for Ward and Matthysse to move up in weight either. Its all about who you like in the sport of boxing.

[DD09]

I disagree with your Mayweather vs Marquez comment, Mayweather came in over the weight limit and fought a Marquez which had never fought at 147. It was a mismatch from the get go and Marquez paid for it. I think the "new" Marquez gives Floyd a better fight but still loses. Let's not forget Marquez was getting rocked by Pacquiao in the 4th fight. He wasn't brilliant, his one counter was though.

As for Floyd, I don't like the guy. At the same time 154 isn't his weight class. Problem is, like always he twists things when convenient to him. So if he knows he can beat a guy at 154, he'll fight at 154 and then brag about it. If he thinks he's it's too much of a disadvantage he'll argue it's not his weight class. His team is king at manipulating facts to his advantage. Always have and always will.

Reality is, Pacquiao is the only legitimate fight for him at 147. I doubt he loses to Canelo at 154, only factor against him is his weight disadvantage and the fact Canelo is a good fighter. But Canelo is nowhere near Floyd's level.

As much as I don't like Mayweather's attitude, at the moment there is nobody at 147 besides Pacquiao who I see giving him problems. Maybe Matthysse after a couple more fights, maybe.

[DD09]

Its all about who you like. Some people will scream at guys like Broner and Floyd for not moving up multiple divisions. And in the same breathe they have no problem with guys like Canelo, PWill, and Margarito cutting 20 to 30 lbs to fight at the lower divisions. Plus I dont hear anybody lobbying for Ward and Matthysse to move up in weight either. Its all about who you like in the sport of boxing.

I agree. I think the sport of boxing needs to be reformed. Promoters and all these useless belts do nothing but complicate the process of making fights. It's ridiculous. Maybe if the fans would get together instead to clean up this messed up system instead of cheer leading for fighters we would get to see all the best fights at the given weight limits. Until then, you can't blame the fighters or promoters because we allow them to get away with this bs.

[dc3383]

Its all about who you like. Some people will scream at guys like Broner and Floyd for not moving up multiple divisions. And in the same breathe they have no problem with guys like Canelo, PWill, and Margarito cutting 20 to 30 lbs to fight at the lower divisions. Plus I dont hear anybody lobbying for Ward and Matthysse to move up in weight either. Its all about who you like in the sport of boxing.

We have a winner; while most claim Floyd is a bum or cherrypicker they expect more out of him than any other fighter. He was accused of ducking Andre Ward cause Ward said Floyd is the only fight he would move to 160 for. Most here think Floyd should fight the Klit bros before he retires

[WitherGlove]

I disagree with your Mayweather vs Marquez comment, Mayweather came in over the weight limit and fought a Marquez which had never fought at 147. It was a mismatch from the get go and Marquez paid for it. I think the "new" Marquez gives Floyd a better fight but still loses. Let's not forget Marquez was getting rocked by Pacquiao in the 4th fight. He wasn't brilliant, his one counter was though.

As for Floyd, I don't like the guy. At the same time 154 isn't his weight class. Problem is, like always he twists things when convenient to him. So if he knows he can beat a guy at 154, he'll fight at 154 and then brag about it. If he thinks he's it's too much of a disadvantage he'll argue it's not his weight class. His team is king at manipulating facts to his advantage. Always have and always will.

Reality is, Pacquiao is the only legitimate fight for him at 147. I doubt he loses to Canelo at 154, only factor against him is his weight disadvantage and the fact Canelo is a good fighter. But Canelo is nowhere near Floyd's level.

As much as I don't like Mayweather's attitude, at the moment there is nobody at 147 besides Pacquiao who I see giving him problems. Maybe Matthysse after a couple more fights, maybe.

I agree to a certain extent, like even though that was marquez 1st fight at that weight it wasn't the weight it was the style. If you got back and watch that fight Marquez may have not been as strong but he was quicker than he was when he last fought pac. Now imagine, Marquez barely landed anything the first time now make him slower it would be even worse. I think that's why Marquez doesn't want the fight anymore. But as you said before I still want the manny fight I don't think anyone else stands a chance but we have to see how manny looks to see if it's a viable fight

[Outwest Exp 355]

I disagree with your Mayweather vs Marquez comment, Mayweather came in over the weight limit and fought a Marquez which had never fought at 147. It was a mismatch from the get go and Marquez paid for it. I think the "new" Marquez gives Floyd a better fight but still loses. Let's not forget Marquez was getting rocked by Pacquiao in the 4th fight. He wasn't brilliant, his one counter was though.

As for Floyd, I don't like the guy. At the same time 154 isn't his weight class. Problem is, like always he twists things when convenient to him. So if he knows he can beat a guy at 154, he'll fight at 154 and then brag about it. If he thinks he's it's too much of a disadvantage he'll argue it's not his weight class. His team is king at manipulating facts to his advantage. Always have and always will.

Reality is, Pacquiao is the only legitimate fight for him at 147. I doubt he loses to Canelo at 154, only factor against him is his weight disadvantage and the fact Canelo is a good fighter. But Canelo is nowhere near Floyd's level.

As much as I don't like Mayweather's attitude, at the moment there is nobody at 147 besides Pacquiao who I see giving him problems. Maybe Matthysse after a couple more fights, maybe.

Dont mistake what Floyd fans say for Floyds own comments. Obviously 154 isnt Floyds natural weight class but he has proven he will make the move up for the big money fights. Cotto and De La Hoya are his two highest grossing fights so he's not just fighting anybody. Canelo is the type of fighter that can bring in that type of revenue, which I why he will be offered the fight. But Floyds not going to campaign there for the duration of his career. He's been at 147 since 2006 and he still cant make the 154lb limit.

[WitherGlove]

I noticed most guys who usually speak on my threads usually have substance I guess it's like they say when you present a valid argument people don't want to talk. I think as fans we need to really start backing these up and coming guys who work hard to get a spot in the sport. Just imagine how Floyd career would have turned out if he had stayed with Arum. I don't think it would be the same at all.