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  • mathed
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    #51
    Originally posted by ROSS CALIFORNIA
    Schaefer is wrong. The Boxing Scene hater squad knows exactly what's going on. lmao They have all the answers to everything.
    Come on man, you heard what this bum said last week (I'm not going to dig up the thread though) about the PPV numbers and how they would be released by the Friday after the fight...."everyone in the business knows this". We still haven't seen the numbers though have we? The guy is just as bad as Arum, he's a liar, that's what he does.

    Floyd's dad said the same thing Canelo's camp did about the weight...you believe them or Schaefer? Forget about Canelo's team even being in the equation - you believe Schaefer over Floyd's own father? It's just about knowing what's real and who the liar is, nothing more.

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    • jbpanama
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      #52
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      I dont understand why ppl cant just relax and let the fight be negotiated. its like ppl want it to fail more than they do succeed just so they criticize floyd or w/e. the fact that we have schafer saying negotiations are ongoing tells us that something is happening. whether it gets done or not, we will know soon
      All my POINTS says it DOES NOT HAPPEN....Any Takers???

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      • jbpanama
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        #53
        Originally posted by mathed
        Come on man, you heard what this bum said last week (I'm not going to dig up the thread though) about the PPV numbers and how they would be released by the Friday after the fight...."everyone in the business knows this". We still haven't seen the numbers though have we? The guy is just as bad as Arum, he's a liar, that's what he does.

        Floyd's dad said the same thing Canelo's camp did about the weight...you believe them or Schaefer? Forget about Canelo's team even being in the equation - you believe Schaefer over Floyd's own father? It's just about knowing what's real and who the liar is, nothing more.
        They ALL LIARS.....DIMWIT!!! NO WAY The MASTER of Avoidance fights the
        Cinnamon Man!!!

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        • batista84
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          #54
          Originally posted by mathed
          Possibly but Canelo ain't fighting Floyd at 147 for starters and Broner ain't fighting Khan. I think you got it pretty well pegged opponent-wise for September but if Floyd doesn't budge from the weight thing and agree to fight Caneo at a catchweight at least, then Canelo won't fight on Floyd's undercard.

          He'll headline his own PPV the same night just to kill Floyd's numbers. If Canelo's PPV does 650K PPV's that's fine because it's his first PPV but if Floyd's PPV does 650K PPV, that's no bueno at all.
          I don´t think Showtime will have the luxury money-wise of doing two September14 PPV's, This si the only solution I see for all involved in the business, Floyd, Canelo, GBP, and Showtime, It's what makes more sense in makin money and givin the fans a good fight night.

          About the May 2014 card, I think I made it very dreamy, but if that card would happen, I´m sure you´ve have a PPV record breaker there.
          Regards.

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            #55
            Originally posted by uniquehump

            I agree. Floyd is his best at 147 and his worst at 154. Canelo is a beast at 154 and he's so bid, I don't think that he can even make 147. I'm not even sure if he'll make a catchweight of 150/151. but if they were to fight, it would have to be at 154 for (1) floyd to get full credit, (2) Floyd says that he fights at his opponents best weight, (3) he has to put that title on the line.

            Although I am in agreement that Floyd has earned the right to demand the weight just like Oscar did a few years ago, Canelo just can't make that weight and therefore a fight between the two would be impossible unless Floyd gives in a little.
            Canelo challenged Floyd, if he can't meet the demands of the champ, that's his fault

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            • ThatDude44
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              #56
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              Pretty sure Floyd knows the details, and by extension his father.
              Hell yeah, he's the one that's getting in the ring and calls the shots. He tells Schaffer, " hey this is what I want".

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                #57
                schaefer is lying through his teeth.... of course Cherrypicker demanded the fight be at 147 lbs. That's why the ginger's trainer had to out CHerrypicker's cowardice by outing him in the public. Cherrypicker SR just confirmed the truth of it by flapping his gums.

                but ultimately the fight isn't gonna happen. We know Cherrypicker is getting paid $32 mil regardless... he has no incentive to fight the ginger

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                • HeroBando
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by batista84
                  I don´t think Showtime will have the luxury money-wise of doing two September14 PPV's, This si the only solution I see for all involved in the business, Floyd, Canelo, GBP, and Showtime, It's what makes more sense in makin money and givin the fans a good fight night.

                  About the May 2014 card, I think I made it very dreamy, but if that card would happen, I´m sure you´ve have a PPV record breaker there.
                  Regards.
                  It's a good suggestion, but that's a record expensive undercard. Cotto was expecting 10m lol. The main event is a dog, this would help but probably not enough to even cover the undercard purses. Maybe it would, but it's a risk, and that's what got SHO here. Plus Canelo said he's not fighting on Floyd's undercard without a contract, though maybe they can squeeze him hard enough.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by rey guey
                    Schaefer needs to make this fight happen so bad.

                    let's think about the straight cluster F if this fight doesn't happen.

                    Canelo wants to fight on mexican independence day weekend

                    Mayweather wants the same date

                    Canelo has vowed to never fight on a Mayweather undercard again unless Mayweather signs a contract to fight him.

                    so what's GBP going to do if they don't fight each other?

                    they could potentially have 2 fights that night but only be able to cover one of them, because Canelo won't be on the PPV card even if he fights at a different location (which he's done in the past).

                    they can't do dual PPVs nor is Showtime going to show one fight for free and another on PPV at the same time. they can't put it on CBS because Alabama is playing that night. it's a messed up situation.

                    can you imagine how upset fans will be if Showtime doesn't show the Canelo fight? and I don't think Canelo will move his date again. he knows how much power he has.

                    plus you got Marquez vs Bradley and maybe Abregu vs Prodvodnikov/Alvarado on HBO the same night.

                    this is all a train wreck waiting to happen.

                    Mayweather vs Canelo fixes everything

                    but Mayweather has no reason to fight Canelo. the man gets 30+ million no matter who he fights, so he doesn't need Canelo. Showtime/GBP messed up when they offered him the contract.

                    Mayweather is honoring his side of the contract they offered him, why would he want to go out of his way to help Schaefer and Showtime?
                    Well Canelo won't no how much pull he has until he does a PPV.

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                    • mathed
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by batista84
                      I don´t think Showtime will have the luxury money-wise of doing two September14 PPV's, This si the only solution I see for all involved in the business, Floyd, Canelo, GBP, and Showtime, It's what makes more sense in makin money and givin the fans a good fight night.

                      About the May 2014 card, I think I made it very dreamy, but if that card would happen, I´m sure you´ve have a PPV record breaker there.
                      Regards.
                      The money may be an issue but I still don't see Canleo fighting on Floyd's undercard unless he gets a guarantee to fight Floyd next (not at 147). For sure though, if there was someway that May 2014 card could happen, it would be a HUGE PPV and probably break the May-DLH card.

                      I think Floyd will be orced to fight Canelo or Pac before it's all said and done and I tend to think he will fight Pac first....I can just sense it. Especially with all this talk of Pac being near broke and not being as interested in boxing as he used to be, it sets Pac up as the perfect guy for May to fight. It gives Floyd the leverage he needs and Pac the payday he needs...plus Pac will be an easier foe than he would have been 2 years ago...sad to say but it does fit Floyd's profile when it comes to the "big-name" fights.

                      Anything could happen though but Floyd will fight one of the two guys before he retires.

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