comparison between Pacquiao draining opponents and floyd asking canelo to come to 147

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  • ADP02
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    #81
    Originally posted by bravestone
    Just stop
    It's getting pathetic .... like I said, your comments went downhill ...... really fast ....

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    • bravestone
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      #82
      Originally posted by ADP02
      It's getting pathetic .... like I said, your comments went downhill ...... really fast ....
      I keep it clean. You keep what fits your agenda

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      • HeroBando
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        #83
        Originally posted by RSBonos
        Aside from some trolls, everybody would be ok with Mayweather fighting Canelo at a 150 catchweight.

        Instead he is asking for the impossible to avoid the fight altogether.
        I disagree. Canelo can't make 150 in good shape, he didn't even come close for Hatton. 152 maybe.

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        • ADP02
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          #84
          Originally posted by bravestone
          I keep it clean. You keep what fits your agenda
          I got it after your 2nd or third post.

          In 2008, Manny fought at 130.

          In 2009, Manny fought the guy that beat Mosley at 145. That guy, Cotto, is a TR guy. It was a title fight.

          AGAIN, most people would not be calling Manny a ducker ESPECIALLY in 2009 after fighting Oscar, Hatton and then took on Cotto. Negotiations failed but Floyd was next!

          Yet, YOU have the courage to call that Manny a ducker? Craziest thing man .... if that is a ducker then everyone in boxing must be ducking!

          YOU FAILED BIG TIME!

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          • bravestone
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            #85
            Originally posted by ADP02
            I got it after your 2nd or third post.

            In 2008, Manny fought at 130.

            In 2009, Manny fought the guy that beat Mosley at 145. That guy, Cotto, is a TR guy. It was a title fight.

            AGAIN, most people would not be calling Manny a ducker ESPECIALLY in 2009 after fighting Oscar, Hatton and then took on Cotto. Negotiations failed but Floyd was next!

            Yet, YOU have the courage to call that Manny a ducker? Craziest thing man .... if that is a ducker then everyone in boxing must be ducking!

            YOU FAILED BIG TIME!
            I dont call Mayweather a ducker??? at junior middle he is so dont be weary on me

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            • ADP02
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              #86
              Originally posted by bravestone
              I dont call Mayweather a ducker??? at junior middle he is so dont be weary on me
              Let's see how it unfolds .... he shouldn't because Canelo still can be had due to his current issues but that is what is sad about Floyd if this is true. If true, Floyd wants to take away Canelo's sole advantage.

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              • Marvellous1
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                #87
                The whole "They fought the TR guy first at 145lbs" is BS. Mosley went to the Wild Card gym after the DLH fight and asked for the same deal they agreed with Oscar. Roach blatantly and candidly said no. When pressed why in interview, his words were: "because you're not Oscar". When further pressed what that meant, Roach said: "You're too good". Throw in whatever you want, but at that point, TR were taking no risks and chose their matches accordingly. I can understand why, just as I can understand why they have said no more 154, even if it meant not fighting a guy they already destroyed.

                What I don't get why some pretend it didn't happen or try to explain it away. Mayweather will doing the same thing BUT- the difference is, Mayweather said he wouldn't do it. IF things go the way we hear (remember, nothing has even been agreed) then Mayweather will guilty of doing what he said he wouldn't, nothing more, unless people can be honest and apply whatever they say about him to other fighters, Manny included.

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                • bravestone
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                  #88
                  Stop crying please. Its a bit weird.......- After the fight is signed at 147--- then it sucks.

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Marvellous1
                    The whole "They fought the TR guy first at 145lbs" is BS. Mosley went to the Wild Card gym after the DLH fight and asked for the same deal they agreed with Oscar. Roach blatantly and candidly said no. When pressed why in interview, his words were: "because you're not Oscar". When further pressed what that meant, Roach said: "You're too good". Throw in whatever you want, but at that point, TR were taking no risks and chose their matches accordingly. I can understand why, just as I can understand why they have said no more 154, even if it meant not fighting a guy they already destroyed.

                    What I don't get why some pretend it didn't happen or try to explain it away. Mayweather will doing the same thing BUT- the difference is, Mayweather said he wouldn't do it. IF things go the way we hear (remember, nothing has even been agreed) then Mayweather will guilty of doing what he said he wouldn't, nothing more, unless people can be honest and apply whatever they say about him to other fighters, Manny included.
                    Yeah, it's not the same. When Pac rejected Mosley, he was moving up to his 7th division, world record. He wasn't a welter champ trying to drag the guy down, just had no idea if he could handle welter. So instead of Mosley at 142 he picked pretty formidable Cotto at 145. Certainly more fair weight wise. And remember Cotto would have been an overwhelming favorite just 12 months earlier.

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                    • SlySlickSmooth
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                      #90
                      So let me get this straight.

                      Manny gets CHOSEN by DLH and beats him.

                      The CW for the 3rd Marquez fight, how much sense did that really make. Sure Marquez moved from LW to WW, gaining 9 pounds at 144 CW, I don't see how it really effected either fighter. If it was at 147 would it of not been a bigger weight advantage for Pacquiao?

                      And 145 CW for Cotto.. I mean really, that **** was more like motivation. Cotto fighting now at 154 pounds is a joke! Just as much as Manny being a LMW ex-champ and Floyd being #1 at 154.

                      Now, I do agree on this one.. the regulations set for the Margarito fight were outrageous.

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