comparison between Pacquiao draining opponents and floyd asking canelo to come to 147

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  • HeroBando
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    #71
    Originally posted by Own3d
    My Argument is Pacquiao didn't want to fight Cotto at his most comfortable weight, if they thought draining would make no difference why ask for a CW? Especially after already beating the crap out of the guy. Cotto had already gave into Pacquiaos demands once and said it affected, them asking for another CW obviously shows they believe it too.
    Please read this:

    WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto is counting the numbers on the check. Puerto Rico's biggest star told Raul Alzaga that his final decision, regarding his next opponent, will be determined by money. Cotto and members of his team are evaluating two possible scenarios - a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, or a rematch with Manny Pacquiao on June 9th - also in Las Vegas.


    Cotto had just asked to defend his 154 title at 150 vs Marg. Trust your eyes dude, Cotto is NOT drained at 150. It's right in the middle of his sweet spot, now that he's too lazy to make welter and way too small for SWW. 150 is not advantage Pac FFS, he's barely 150 fight night.

    He came up with whatever excuse cause he didn't want the fight. Fine, nobody really did except Arum. He also blamed money, which'll tell you something considering how much less he'd get for Trout. He should have just said he wanted to fight in NYC and left it at that.,

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    • straightleft
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      #72
      Originally posted by Own3d
      My Argument is Pacquiao didn't want to fight Cotto at his most comfortable weight, if they thought draining would make no difference why ask for a CW? Especially after already beating the crap out of the guy. Cotto had already gave into Pacquiaos demands once and said it affected, them asking for another CW obviously shows they believe it too.
      Remember Pac is a former 106 pro fighter. Drill that into your thick skull. Pac fighting at catchweight where his opponents enjoyed weight advantages regardless and his opponents moved down just 1 lb or 2 is so much better, a fair fight than 147 Floyd forcing a 130, 135, 140 fighters to move up to 147 and 154, 160 fighters to move down to 147 and fight at his comfortable weight.

      Floyd either bloating or draining his opponents dangerously for their health and not giving them a leveling field is disgraceful. The first time he gave a leveling field (catchweight ) against a lightweight Marquez he cheated him immediately by coming 2 lbs overweight and didn't try to make weight at all. He seems he planned it all along. This is how low your self admitted cherry picker hero disturbing behavior just to preserve his lovely 0.
      Last edited by straightleft; 05-16-2013, 10:47 PM.

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        #73
        the opponents floyd wanted he went to them

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          #74
          It's so sad how floyd has no problem fighting career light weights and 140lbers, but he can't fight a guy in the weight class where he's the champion.

          What happened to all his talk about fighting cotto where he's the healthiest?

          So he wants a shot cotto healthy but he wants Canelo drained lol...

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            #75
            Originally posted by ADP02
            Fighting a TR guy that beat Mosley and fighting for the title is an excuse? First I thought you just didn't know but after telling you and reminding you of the history of fighters that Manny faced, .... Sorry but you MUST BE trolling!
            Fighting for the title. The WBO title? At a catchweight? That alot think Cotto lost? That fight?

            Packtards

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            • ADP02
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              #76
              Originally posted by bravestone
              Fighting for the title. The WBO title? At a catchweight? That alot think Cotto lost? That fight?

              Packtards
              Still trolling? At least you made a few decent comments initially but now it's all downhill baby!

              FYI - I have criticized Manny when he picked on opponents that were not the best he could have made. You on the other-hand don't get it even when people present you with easy to understand facts. Maybe you are new to this .....

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              • Jam Jars
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                #77
                Originally posted by straightleft
                Remember Pac is a former 106 pro fighter. Drill that into your thick skull. Pac fighting at catchweight where his opponents enjoyed weight advantages regardless and his opponents moved down just 1 lb or 2 is so much better, a fair fight than 147 Floyd forcing a 130, 135, 140 fighters to move up to 147 and 154, 160 fighters to move down to 147 and fight at his comfortable weight.

                Floyd either bloating or draining his opponents dangerously for their health and not giving them a leveling field is disgraceful. The first time he gave a leveling field (catchweight ) against a lightweight Marquez he cheated him immediately by coming 2 lbs overweight and didn't try to make weight at all. He seems he planned it all along. This is how low your self admitted cherry picker hero disturbing behavior just to preserve his lovely 0.
                My point still stands they obviously thought he would be a tougher contest if he was allowed to weigh the division weight he fought at, they wouldn't ask for a CW if not. Common sense.......

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Own3d
                  My point still stands they obviously thought he would be a tougher contest if he was allowed to weigh the division weight he fought at, they wouldn't ask for a CW if not. Common sense.......
                  He said he's never moving up to SWW, what's so complicated dude? Everybody has limits. for Pac it's 7 divisions, for Floyd 4, for Cotto 3, just barely

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                  • bravestone
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    Still trolling? At least you made a few decent comments initially but now it's all downhill baby!

                    FYI - I have criticized Manny when he picked on opponents that were not the best he could have made. You on the other-hand don't get it even when people present you with easy to understand facts. Maybe you are new to this .....
                    Just stop

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                      #80
                      Aside from some trolls, everybody would be ok with Mayweather fighting Canelo at a 150 catchweight.

                      Instead he is asking for the impossible to avoid the fight altogether.

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