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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostDoesnt everyone remember when ali made foreman come in at 215
or when SRL made hearns fight at 144, or hagler at 155
Or when oscar made tito fight at 140
Or when oscar made vargas come down to 147
This is common practice in boxing to make the biggest fights not at the ideal weight
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Originally posted by Lorily View PostTo be honest, I believe this is what will happen..... EVENTUALLY. I mean, if ya'll think about it - what sense would it make for Floyd to fight Canelo NOW? Floyd has 5 fights left on his Showtime contract, and insists he's DONE after that. Why would Floyd make his second or third fight on that contract be the biggest fight he has out of the options he has. Look at it like this - Say he fights Canelo as his 3rd fight (of 6)... then what does he follow it up with as his last few fights, Devon Alexander?!?! Andre Berto?!? A rematch with Ortiz (not likely anyway)?!? No way. You don't make your last few fights fighting the likes of Devon or Berto or some ****. If your Floyd Mayweather Jr, you make your last few fights the biggest possible fights out there and minimize losing risk because it's the grand finale. He should fight the Devons and Bertos now - sit back and let Canelo/Cotto fight (and considers the winner) and Pacquiao vs whoever (and considers the winner).
I think the 147lb demand is more than likely a tactic for time. They let the other fights play out and then in the end, they negotiate out a 154lb fight with a rehydration clause. Again, it just doesn't make sense to fight Canelo (or Pac for that matter) until the end of his 6 fight contract. You don't fight your big fights at the beginning of the countdown and then take the perceivable easier fights AFTERWARDS... you wait until the end and make it the coup de grace. If you're Floyd Mayweather Jr (where $$$$ is the ultimate goal) if you make your last contracted fight (EVER) a high profit/high value fight, it still leaves room for possible air of a 7th fight vs whoever the highest demand/highest money thriller the fans mouth waterinly demand. They insist he's "retired for good", until a media/fan wishlist is so high that he gets back into that era that was created back in 09/10, where the profiteers insist that he can make 100-150 million dollars guaranteed (not including PPV $).
Floyd says he's gonna finish up his 6 fights and then move on to other things in boxing, namely his Promotional Company, and will probably dabble in training (but IMO he wont find the glory in it he thinks he will because he knows the only thing he can control in this business is HIMSELF). The lure of BIG, easy money will bring him out if there's a huge clamour for it). But, you don't get all that if you end your fighting career fighting the likes of Devon Alexander or Andre ****ing Berto.
I would expect that once the criticism starts flowing towards Jr. that he will come out with a statement saying that 'He's his own man' and his father doesn't speak for him. I doubt he even elaborates any further then that, which would be smart on his part.
I've been saying this for a long time but Jr. needs to put a gag order on his pops.... make it some kind of stipulation for him being head trainer or something. It seems like the more poppa Mayweather publicly speaks for Jr., the more the problems between the two begin to smolder. I doubt seriously (although doubtlfull Jr. will say this publicly) that FMJ is gonna just sit back and allow his father to tell the media/fans that 'he's the boss' and is in charge of him for anything other then being the paid trainer in his corner on fight night.
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and Floyd has the guts saying he considers himself the best among the all time greats....sorry floyd you're are wrong!!!Greats are not afraid in fighting or facing the best available challenges....the one who risks fighting fighters he knew has a chance of beating him......
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Originally posted by TheOliverBrand View PostAs for Canelo, it really doesnt matter what what he fights at. He gasses, hes flat footed, and he has limited head movement. He's a deadman at 154 or 147.
Hmmmmm I wonder why the best fighter in the world would duck a guy that gasses, is flat footed and has limited head movement? Could it be that maybe the person that said this is just talking out of his a$$? Could it be that maybe the flat footed, gassed and no head movement guy is a real threat?
lollololololol
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Originally posted by Boxing Sage View PostLook, Floyd is already a legend and cash-cow and doesn't need to fight Canelo for anything! If Canelo really wants the fight for big dollars and a chance to be the 1st to beat Floyd, then he's got to come down to 147, to fight, simple and shut! If he can't make 147, then he should stay in his lane(154) and stop picking on a smaller fighter in a different lane! If you want Mayweather, and all the perks that come with it, you got to go to him, not the other way round. "F" catch-weights!
#1 Sugar Ray Robinson, there you have a legend.
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Originally posted by batista84 View PostSorry but no, heŽs an all time great, not a legend, he beats alvarez and he would be a legend because heŽd be in a very risky fight, and he be able to prove all his haters wrong.
#1 Sugar Ray Robinson, there you have a legend.
There have been plenty of risky fights Floyd has taken.
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Originally posted by Sugar Q View PostI don't know why this is so hard to understand. I know haters wanna see him lose but damn, lol.
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Originally posted by batista84 View PostSorry but no, heŽs an all time great, not a legend, he beats alvarez and he would be a legend because heŽd be in a very risky fight, and he be able to prove all his haters wrong.
#1 Sugar Ray Robinson, there you have a legend.
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