Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: I Asked for VADA, Got USADA & No Tests Yet

[MikeRo1972]

No one said no GBP just prefers the gold standard of testing. The one olympians use. The one USA uses for world competetions. USADA.

You clowns will find anything to complain about

Flat out one of the most uninformed posts I've ever read on the topic. Just plain ignorant.

[Fetta]

Flat out one of the most uninformed posts I've ever read on the topic. Just plain ignorant.

World considers USADA the gold standardbut since a few keyboard warriors say different Im the ignorant one. Morons

[HeroBando]

World considers USADA the gold standardbut since a few keyboard warriors say different Im the ignorant one. Morons

Maybe there's nothing wrong with USADA when employed by an impartial body, like USOC or the cycling body. Well neither are really impartial, but they're mother Teresas compared to boxing promoters. Them being contracted by the promoter is a built in conflict of interest.

[MikeRo1972]

You cannot talk just about Golden Boy with that incident because EVERYONE was left in limbo. The Promoters, the Commission, the opposing fighter, etc. That is a big deal! If there were others being notified, like the Commission early on, Golden Boy would have discovered the positive right away by default. There were just too many holes with the VADA contracts at that particular time.

WTF are you talking about? You're losing sight of the fact that VADA busted him. Don't let GBP fool you, they're pissed they didn't know first. Who cares if they weren't notified first? It's a conflict of interest. It doesn't matter that they paid for the test, that's irrelevant. So what then? They own the result? They get to damage control? They get to hide the info until they can get a B sample tested? And if that fails get a "C" sample cooked up? That's not how it works. If they didnt sign the proper paperwork then it becomes a HIPAA constraint (privacy laws) they can't just interject. The fact is that they don't like VADA because VADA busts these dirty athletes, and another thing these commissions like the dirty NY state commission don't want to cancel events either because they lose tax revenue if the event doesn't go on as planned. See: Morales (dirty test) and Margarito (bum eye).

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

So Armstrong stops paying USADA and they went after him. They fanned the flames of guilt without actually catching him positive for PEDS for 10 years they were following him? That it took Armstrong's confession that he took PEDS so that USADA can feel the winner in the end?

Also, notably Marion Jones never tested positive when tested by USADA that it took Memo Heredia's snitching so that the world could see who the real Jones was?

How about Floyd failing the USADA test 3x but was covered up by Golden Boy and USADA?

Morales tested positive for Clenbuterol and GB and USADA had a privacy agreement in effect paving for Morales to still fight even when found positive for steroids?


Why is Floyd and GB so adamant about using USADA again?

[radioraheem]

WTF are you talking about? You're losing sight of the fact that VADA busted him. Don't let GBP fool you, they're pissed they didn't know first. Who cares if they weren't notified first? It's a conflict of interest. It doesn't matter that they paid for the test, that's irrelevant. So what then? They own the result? They get to damage control? They get to hide the info until they can get a B sample tested? And if that fails get a "C" sample cooked up? That's not how it works. If they didnt sign the proper paperwork then it becomes a HIPAA constraint (privacy laws) they can't just interject. The fact is that they don't like VADA because VADA busts these dirty athletes, and another thing these commissions like the dirty NY state commission don't want to cancel events either because they lose tax revenue if the event doesn't go on as planned. See: Morales (dirty test) and Margarito (bum eye).

No. I'm fully aware about the positive. The problem is the lack of transparency. The lack of notification. That was the problem. It's a huge problem when ONLY the fighter who tested positive was notified. That is a huge deal.

That is what Golden Boy didn't like. With Andre Berto, it was Al Haymon that first told Golden Boy about the positive. But what if Haymon didn't even call them? Would Golden Boy had been in the dark again? So they went with USADA, who will at least tell all parties right away at the same time. Keep in mind that Golden Boy purposefully CHOSE VADA instead of USADA in the beginning. And it wasn't because of their fear of positive results, but it was because they were cheaper.

[MikeRo1972]

World considers USADA the gold standardbut since a few keyboard warriors say different Im the ignorant one. Morons

I dont mean ignorant as an insult i mean it as its dictionary definition; misinformed. And no it's not because of any (as you so eloquently put it) keyboard warriors. It's based off of facts, test results, coverups, and corruption.

General Motors was once considered the gold standard too until they started producing sh'tty cars. Same thing.

[Fetta]

Maybe there's nothing wrong with USADA when employed by an impartial body, like USOC or the cycling body. Well neither are really impartial, but they're mother Teresas compared to boxing promoters. Them being contracted by the promoter is a built in conflict of interest.

Yeah cause they are willing to ruin that world reputation for fighter, promoter, or sport for that matter. The WORLD respects this agency to provide them with clean athletes for competetion. So maybe they arent that bad.

[Fetta]

Yes exactly you are the ignorant one. and i dont mean as an insult i mean it as its dictionary definition; misinformed. And no it's not because of any (as you so eloquently put it) keyboard warriors. It's based off of facts, test results, coverups, and corruption.

General Motors once considered the gold standard too until they started producing sh'tty cars. Same thing.

World respects them so thats good enough me.

Not saying i have anything against VADA. They good too. Just saying one or the other im fine.

[HeroBando]

Yeah cause they are willing to ruin that world reputation for fighter, promoter, or sport for that matter. The WORLD respects this agency to provide them with clean athletes for competetion. So maybe they arent that bad.

Maybe they're not doing anything unsavory, only what they must contractually. That is, have the promoter decide what to do with the results. They're just a testing agency, you can't expect them to deal with both promoters plus each and every state commission.

I mean, this is super simple: what does the promoter have to gain by a fighter testing positive, especially their own fighter? Who pays for the testing? The promoter.