Comments Thread For: Fighting Words: Should Floyd Face the Best of 154, 160?

[icha]

You are missing my point. My point is why keep bringing up about Floyd's belt or stripping him. No one cares. Its common sense. If he doesnt defend in then strip him. Not even a Floyd fan would argue that. What I do argue is people saying he's the 154 pound champ so he should fight there. I then say that he's also the 147 pound champ so he should fight there too.

My point is that argument is moot. If he doesnt wanna fight Canelo or anyone else then strip him. No one argues against that so why keep bringing it up. Its common sense. That still doesnt mean he should fight him. He either gets one or the other. Either he fights him and keeps the belt or he doesnt and get stripped.

It doesnt matter because if he gets stripped, fights at WW, then he can still go to 154 anytime he wants to get the belt back. Thats my point. he doesnt have to wait in line or start all over like other guys would. Any champ would fight him. The whole argument is moot and silly. i dont even get it. No one is arguing against it

didnt floyd him self said he wants to defend his wba title??
there is no excuse for not taking the fight then...

[spyvsspy]

and what did I say? Its not the same guy. He's not the same guy who fought Baldy. This isnt the pre Oscar version. He's much bigger than a title now.

U r ghey...he isnt bigger than boxing. He just realized that he can cherrypick and ******s like you will gobble down his man meat.

[DoomCity202]

154 max.......thats all i see

[trainhard_187]

He should face Pacquiao now that Pacquiao is conducting VADA testing and has a few losses on his belt.. Their should be NO REASON other then ARUM, why that fight CANT HAPPEN.

And im sure that Pacquiao will take the lesser cut...

[trainhard_187]

Floyd will fight Danny Garcia and theyll Market this fight as the Garcia being the Younger Hungry Undefeated Fighter looking to take Floyds crown...

Floyd will only fight up and coming former LW or LWW.

[Charles Ramsey]

Floyd will fight Danny Garcia and theyll Market this fight as the Garcia being the Younger Hungry Undefeated Fighter looking to take Floyds crown...

Floyd will only fight up and coming former LW or LWW.

That's right.

[Goldie]

So mares is chasing rigondeux for the money????? Really cause that fight is gonna make him big time money right????? How about mares wants that fight cause people perceive rigondeux as the best at 122 now.You're A big time floyd fan that's why u can't understand the " hate". He legacy isn't gonna stick with fighting the Alexander's and khans of the world. But he don't give a *****tttt about that. So more power to him

I'm a boxing fan so of course I'm a Floyd fan. He's the best fighter in the sport and has been for a long time. Any real boxing fan is a fan of what Floyd does in the ring. His legacy is secure. Haters live in their own world that's separate from reality. This is why you see Floyd's peers giving him so much respect and holding him in such high esteem while the socalled fans do nothing but hate.Think about that and check yourself.

Yes, Mares is chasing Rig for the money. Rig is perceived as the best and Mares recognizes that beating the best is the quickest avenue to reaching the bigger pay days. Name another fighter other than Rig that could lead Mares to bigger pay days. Mayweather isn't in that position anymore, he's the top dog that other fighters chase in search of bigger pay days. It's called prize fighting for a reason man. These guys are fighting for your money, not your respect. Floyd is just the most honest about it.

And how was that fight never 50-50?
Mayweather vs Hatton ended in ten. Manny finished him in two. Floyd and Oscar had a competitive fight that was close and manny beat odlh pretty easy. Floyd vs cotto was a close fight and manny killed cotto. Floyd ducked margarito and manny destroyed him. C'mon man I'm not some big manny fan but don't say that fight wasent 50-50 at one time be real.

This is embarrassingly ****** reasoning man. This doesn't even deserve a response. How long have you been watching boxing?

I'm not in his head, if he doesn't say he has a problem with fighting at 154 then I'm not gonna assume he does, especially since he fought there recently and regularly spars with jr middleweights. When fighters don't feel good at a weight, they openly say so. It's not common sense, a fighter can look less than great at a certain weight but say he feels good and he's gonna stay there (Abraham at 168) or a fighter can look great at a weight but claim he doesn't feel good and won't stay there (Pacquiao at 154). Don't assume things and make excuses for fighters.

I don't have to make excuses for anybody. Seems like you're the one making excuses for not having common sense. Floyd has only fought twice at 54 in his career. One of those times was against an opponent who wasn't even a legit 54 fighter himself(Cotto), and the other time was for a onmce in a lifetime pay day(DLH). If Mayweather felt good and comfortable at 54 then he would campaign there, that's common sense. The fact that he didn't even reach the JMW limit for either of those fights let's you know that he's really too small for the division. That's especially obvious when you have guys like Canelo and Trout who cut a lot of weight to make 54 while Floyd can't even reach 54. Now I'm not saying that he won't go back up to 54, but it'll only be for the pay day. At this point, I don';t know if the Canelo pay-day is worth the risk of fighting a guy that is 14 years younger and a lot bigger/stronger. I suspect that Mayweather and his team haven't been convinced either.

I have no problem with the Guerrero fight, look at my sig. Now that that's out of the way, I wanna see him against the best opponent he can face. I know I don't always get what I want but I'm not gonna say I don't care about it. My problem is when people like you say "I don't care who he fights next, it's fine with me" how can a true boxing fan say that? I know it's pretty much useless to complain but at least admit that there are certain fights that you want and if you don't get them you'll be disappointed, at least a little bit. You're talking like if you had the power to request certain matchups you wouldn't use it and you'd let Floyd do what he wants because of his track record...

As a fan, I can say that I'll be fine with Mayweather's choice of opponent because I've never been disappointed by his choice of opponent. Floyd has never chosen to fight a bum, so why would I be worried that he will all of a sudden chose to do so now? I won't be disappointed if he choses not to pursue a fight with Canelo because I can understand why he might not. This notion that Canelo is the only guy out here worth seeing Mayweather fight is silly to me. You even admit to feeling the fight wouldn't even be that competitive, so why would you be disappointed if it doesn't happen right now? If it's really about competition and all that, then you people should be hoping that the fight doesn't happen until Canelo improves and has a couple of more fights under his belt. He looked impressive against Trout, but he still has glaring weaknesses in his game. Outside of the natural advantages he has (size, power, age) he has nothing on Mayweather at this point. Floyd would be the clear favorite at 54 even with those natural disadvantages. I don't even know why you're acting as if Canelo is the best opponent for Floyd when he hasn't even proven that he's the best 54lber yet. There are other guys at 54 that could present Mayweather with more problems than Canelo.

Where's the hate? I obviously don't hate Floyd, quite the opposite. What I hate is this victim mentality of screaming hate everytime your favorite fighter gets criticized. Only thing I said is IF Floyd doesn't fight Canelo I'd be disappointed. What's hateful about that? What do you want me to say? "I have no feeling whatsoever about Floyd's opposition, he could fight Ms Jackson and I'd be cool with it".

The sassiness in your tone is unnecessary. I wasn't specifically referring to you as a hater, I was speaking in general. I even said that Floyd isn't above criticism. I don't have a victim mentality nor am I protecting or defending Floyd. Stop building strawmen.

[JibbaJabber]

Same reason why people defend him for fighting Baldomir for the TITLE, instead of fighting Margarito.

wrong baldomir beat judah a guy floyd was supposed to fights he beat baldomir then he whipped judah then the hatton hpe train built up and he ko'd him. once again i must school these ignorant fools..