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  • RapidFire_Royce
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    #21
    Does anyone think the USADA has the same issues with other testing (Olympics)? Or do you feel they are on the best behavior with WADA?

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    • FeFist
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      #22
      Floyd uses USADA so it is criticised. In all seriousness I think that it is ludicrous for people to believe they would sacrifice their reputation over the likes of Morales and Mayweather.

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      • Bermuda
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        #23
        Originally posted by Dr Rumack
        USADA's record in boxing is not good, the Morales incident is a real black mark against them.
        not just the morales incident but the quillin vs wright situation as well. USADA destroyed quillin and winky's blood and urine samples because they didn't properly inform them on what they weren't supposed to take....

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        • Light_Speed
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          #24
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          Im not sure why anyone would choose USADA. They are 5X more expensive, have black marks against them. Morales tested positive, so they tested like 73 samples from him and they still let him fight and then 4 months after said he cheated
          That's precisely why promoters would choose USADA.

          Originally posted by Biolink
          They don't have any jurisdiction. They just simply tell if they failed the test or not. How can they be at fault because Golden Boy decided to go on with the show?
          They tell the promoter but they don't inform the commission

          Originally posted by FeFist
          Floyd uses USADA so it is criticised. In all seriousness I think that it is ludicrous for people to believe they would sacrifice their reputation over the likes of Morales and Mayweather.
          Their reputation is already tarnished after the Morales incident. At the end of the day they wanna make money, and working with a big promoter like Golden Boy is very profitable.

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          • Dr Rumack
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            #25
            Originally posted by FeFist
            Floyd uses USADA so it is criticised. In all seriousness I think that it is ludicrous for people to believe they would sacrifice their reputation over the likes of Morales and Mayweather.
            As usual the flomos can only see an issue in terms of how it affects Floyd. This issue is much bigger than Floyd.

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            • bravestone
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              #26
              People are hard on USADA but it's up to the promoter's ultimately if they want to continue on with the card or not. Do people actually expect an event to be scrapped like 2 days before if a fighter fails a test?

              And why aren't the commissions trying to enhance their testing? They literally aren't doing anything despite all this controversy. It's shocking.

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              • maguirre
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                #27
                The flomos are suddenly against boxers and fans who want a clean sport. How things change.

                ;-|

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                • radioraheem
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                  As usual the flomos can only see an issue in terms of how it affects Floyd. This issue is much bigger than Floyd.
                  He's correct though. How many articles have you seen written about the mistakes conducted by VADA? None. And they've made some mistakes as well. There's still glaring loopholes in their game just waiting to be taken advantage of. It's so wide open that it's almost comical.

                  The issue is definitely more than it being about one fighter though. That I agree with.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by radioraheem
                    He's correct though. How many articles have you seen written about the mistakes conducted by VADA? None. And they've made some mistakes as well. There's still glaring loopholes in their game just waiting to be taken advantage of. It's so wide open that it's almost comical.

                    The issue is definitely more than it being about one fighter though. That I agree with.
                    Name some glaring holes.

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                    • Dr Rumack
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by bravestone
                      People are hard on USADA but it's up to the promoter's ultimately if they want to continue on with the card or not. Do people actually expect an event to be scrapped like 2 days before if a fighter fails a test?

                      And why aren't the commissions trying to enhance their testing? They literally aren't doing anything despite all this controversy. It's shocking.
                      Yeah this is mainly about Golden Boy as they're the one contracting in USADA, and they're dictating most of the terms.

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