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  • Dr Rumack
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    #11
    USADA's record in boxing is not good, the Morales incident is a real black mark against them.

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    • perfect jet
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      #12
      both orgs have much better testing than boxing commissions etc. but at the end of the day...neither of them have any jurisdiction to stop a fight going ahead due to a doping infraction.

      boxing isnt under the wada code, therefore usada are basically at the mercy of state commissions presiding over the promotion. refer: morales in NY. vada have same probs.

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      • Deevel916
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        #13
        VADA is actually catching drug cheats and exposing them. Usada has covered up positive drug tests.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dr Rumack
          USADA's record in boxing is not good, the Morales incident is a real black mark against them.
          And the Quillin incident.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #15
            Originally posted by thuggery
            USADA seems like the go to place for drug cheats.

            There's a recent article on FloydHype about how Paulie requested VADA testing with Broner, considering the jump in weight Broner is taking to make the fight. Apparently Broner and his handlers told him "if you want VADA, fight is off." They were literally getting ready to cancel a fight because the agency of THEIR choice wasn't going to be used.

            Almost sounds like they have something to hide. And hidden it will remain, just like they're known to do.

            Link http://www.fighthype.com/news/article14405.html
            USADA is shady as ****. Golden Boy's refusal to use VADA instead and the terrible track record so far doesn't make the connection between the two look very good.

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #16
              Im not sure why anyone would choose USADA. They are 5X more expensive, have black marks against them. Morales tested positive, so they tested like 73 samples from him and they still let him fight and then 4 months after said he cheated

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              • Biolink
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                USADA's record in boxing is not good, the Morales incident is a real black mark against them.
                They don't have any jurisdiction. They just simply tell if they failed the test or not. How can they be at fault because Golden Boy decided to go on with the show?

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                • Dr Rumack
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Biolink
                  They don't have any jurisdiction. They just simply tell if they failed the test or not. How can they be at fault because Golden Boy decided to go on with the show?
                  Because they're knowingly engaging in a farce.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Biolink
                    They don't have any jurisdiction. They just simply tell if they failed the test or not. How can they be at fault because Golden Boy decided to go on with the show?
                    That is not all they do, they also declare if he cheated of not. He tested positive and it was pretty clear he cheated (morales) since he tested positive in 2 different samples a week apart. So instead of branding him a cheater and telling the commission to not allow the fight to go on, they "informed them that there might be a violation". Then 5 months later they concluded he cheated

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                    • SCEN3RY
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      Im not sure why anyone would choose USADA. They are 5X more expensive, have black marks against them. Morales tested positive, so they tested like 73 samples from him and they still let him fight and then 4 months after said he cheated
                      This. How do you analyze Quillin/Wright and Morales and say you prefer USADA over VADA? **** makes no sense. A bit too shady, I say.

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