Why Is Floyd Appreciated More.......

[daggum]

Top Rank and GBP fued goes back before that from when Top Rank accused them of poaching fighters before Manny, because they already had mediation set up for that very issue with Manny.

Oscar left Top Rank because he felt they did shady ****, and Arum didn't like that he aced him out. The feud started when Oscar left.

If Arum would have paid Floyd his 20 million and his 12 for Hatton Arum would have made money on the deal~ so I don't think he thinks he made the right call.

Facts are just facts, you can twist them any way you want to make an argument work, if you lack intellectual integrity.

your conclusion is invalid. you say floyd left in order to get a hoya fight. i clearly proved that was not the case because floyd priced himself out of that fight when he was with top rank. you know how we know that? we can just ask floyd who accepted 10 million for the fight after he left. we know floyd never seriously tried to make the hoya fight, so how can you say he left in order to get the hoya fight? golden boy and top rank didn't stop working with each other till september 2006 so yeah floyd didn't have a time machine. why did floyd really leave top rank? to handpick his opponents? to avoid cotto/margarito? or maybe he just liked their logo more?

[daggum]

I get why people don't like him but most fans are as shallow as a saucer. Most people just watch fights to be entertained, so they are focused on whatever suits them plus you can't please everyone and the more successful you become the more people will bite at your back that is just human nature.

People more focused on the nuances of the sport will probably be kinder to Floyd than say most casual boxing fans. People actually in the game are focused on that kind of stuff

I am perfectly fine with people not liking him also that has kept his money line below were it should be for a long time and more people bet with their hearts than their heads and there are no bets if everyone agrees.

actually the opposite. casual fans don't pay attention to negotiations, floyd pricing himself out, etc...they just watch the fights and say "floyd's ducking pac!" even though it's true they don't know why it's true. people who follow the nuances know floyd's long history of ducking. many pro boxers have come out and said floyd is ducking so even though they appreciate his "skills" they also appreciate his ducking ability.

[Djanxx]

Because those people actually know a thing or 2 about boxing, unlike the casuals who haven't got a clue.

[The Gambler1981]

your conclusion is invalid. you say floyd left in order to get a hoya fight. i clearly proved that was not the case because floyd priced himself out of that fight when he was with top rank. you know how we know that? we can just ask floyd who accepted 10 million for the fight after he left. we know floyd never seriously tried to make the hoya fight, so how can you say he left in order to get the hoya fight? golden boy and top rank didn't stop working with each other till september 2006 so yeah floyd didn't have a time machine. why did floyd really leave top rank? to handpick his opponents? to avoid cotto/margarito? or maybe he just liked their logo more?

My conclusion is perfectly fine.

I didn't see you prove anything just say some **** without any back up, when it is common knowledge that Top Rank and GBP were not on working terms back then. Plus Floyd bought himself out, is he just going to crawl back after doing that.

Also why are you saying we? do you have a mouse in your pocket? Are you Todd DuBouf?

[The Gambler1981]

actually the opposite. casual fans don't pay attention to negotiations, floyd pricing himself out, etc...they just watch the fights and say "floyd's ducking pac!" even though it's true they don't know why it's true. people who follow the nuances know floyd's long history of ducking. many pro boxers have come out and said floyd is ducking so even though they appreciate his "skills" they also appreciate his ducking ability.

Jealousy is a mother fucker~ so is envy


You like to parrot talking points, maybe you should work for the State Department~

[cupocity303]

Because those people actually know a thing or 2 about boxing, unlike the casuals who haven't got a clue.

But where does it say that they have to appreciate him anyway? And acting like a Boxing snob and talking down to them gets us nowhere.

If you remember, Floyd's motto is, "If you pay to see me lose, you're still paying. If you're a fan and you pay to see me win, you're still paying". And that's all they are, paying costumers. Their motives, opinions are irrelevant or whether they will ever appreciate him or not.

The only window of opportunity in changing peoples perception is:

A) We the majority public don't like you and think that Manny Pacquiao is better than you, and that he will beat you.

B) Floyd Mayweather shows them that he is better than Pacquiao by beating him. Supply and Demand.

Cut and dry, just like that.

Him rejecting Pacquiao and insinuating that he might be a cheater will not get him to:

C) Well, even though he is not facing the guy who we as the paying public want to see him fight, at least we appreciate his abilities and think that he is one of the greatest ever. We look forward to the next time where we pay 70 bucks for the opportunity to see Floyd lose against a guy who we just found out about, and whose skills we aren't sure can even put a dent in Floyd's armor.


It may get him the "heat" for what it's worth, and some "street cred" with his most adherent fans, but that's it.

[maguirre]

Quit blaming Arum. If Floyd wanted those fights, he could have had them. Easily. and Mosley is not going to fight Mayweather before the boss of GBP does.

I don't think they'll be able to blame Arum in the Canelo duckage which is waiting to happen.

[rambov]

I don't think it has anything to do with Floyd himself but with the way we are marketed as people today. Similar to golf, lacrosse, tennis maybe, boxing has become an acquired taste type of sport. We live in a new type of market place. I can see why folks would want to see ko after ko but that's just not boxing. Unless there's a mismatch of course. I honestly don't think any boxing expert can dislike Floyd. That would be impossible. He has mastered his craft. Anyone who can master his craft deserves recognition..especially amongst his peers!

[PPCollision]

Why so many threads for Mayweather ?

[SkillspayBills]

Why so many threads for Mayweather ?

Because his haters are actually his biggest fans. They love and are obsessed with Floyd.