Why Is Floyd Appreciated More.......

[cupocity303]

Where did that old argument go? I haven't heard it in a while.


What is that, were those not words you wrote?

Here is how it works. You quoted my entire post and responded with a simple, "you asked". Seeing how we're not talking in person, I can't know what you're responding to unless you isolate the specific sentence/comment, which you just did.

Just some constructive feedback so your future conversations, debates go a little more smoothly.

[The Gambler1981]

And you know this how? Because you can read Floyd's mind from your computer? Because you've got inside info?

What we do know is that Floyd used to cry (I.E. post-Baldomir fight) at all the criticism and how he never "gets the credit that he deserves". Maybe he's developed thicker skin since then and embraced his heel-ish role fully, I don't know. I'm not as proficient at it as you are.

I know that because that is business~ you use what is at your disposal.

If you can't read between the lines how is that my fault, if you need everything spelled out for you in boldfaced letters cool I guess.

I guess when you play lots of poker you just get used to reading people like that~ it doesn't take more than a glance at someone if you are good at it.

[The Gambler1981]

Here is how it works. You quoted my entire post and responded with a simple, "you asked". Seeing how we're not talking in person, I can't know what you're responding to unless you isolate the specific sentence/comment, which you just did.

Just some constructive feedback so your future conversations, debates go a little more smoothly.

You were the one that brought up Margarito, and said I haven't heard that debate in a while what was it, so I laid it out for you.

WTF did you think I was talking about lol~ based off my first response.

[cupocity303]

I know that because that is business~ you use what is at your disposal.

If you can't read between the lines how is that my fault, if you need everything spelled out for you in boldfaced letters cool I guess.

I read between lines by pointing out that he cried during the Baldomir post-fight press conference at all the criticism he received. Seems rather self-defeating to cry and complain about all the heat you receive, even though you're doing it deliberately for the sake of being the "bad guy". But as I said, he may have developed a thicker skin since then. That was the real Floyd, he didn't fake the crocodile tears.

I guess when you play lots of poker you just get used to reading people like that~

Oh no, we've got a regular Matt Demon rounder over here.

[The Gambler1981]

I read between lines by pointing out that he cried during the Baldomir post-fight press conference at all the criticism he received. Seems rather self-defeating to cry and complain about all the heat you receive, even though you're doing it deliberately for the sake of being the "bad guy". But as I said, he may have developed a thicker skin since then. That was the real Floyd, he didn't fake the crocodile tears.

Some guys cry at magic tricks, what does that have to do with all the tea in China~


Oh no, we've got a regular Matt Demon rounder over here.

You never want to see me at your table, period~

[daggum]

Margarito?

That argument is that he was trying to fight Oscar who wanted nothing to do with Top Rank, getting a Margarito fight involved sticking around with Top Rank thus forgoing Oscar. What would you do in that situation?

What was the better move fighting Baldomir and still being free to fight Oscar or fighting Margarito and never getting a shot at Oscar.

Did you think Arum would just give Floyd that sort of money to fight an unknown in Margarito without strings?

Anything involving Top Rank involves money Floyd thinks Arum owes him money and still has a lawsuit against Arum to my knowledge, Arum doesn't like the fact that Floyd got over on him big time he does not respect Floyd on an intellectual level so it is hard for Arum to accept he got outplayed by him at his game.

you do realize it was floyd who sabotaged the oscar fight when he was with top rank right? why do you continually blame arum? floyd is the one who asked for a 20 million guarantee. arum said no the fight is not worth that much. you know how much floyd got when he actually fought oscar? a 10 million guarantee. looks like arum was right.

[The Gambler1981]

you do realize it was floyd who sabotaged the oscar fight when he was with top rank right? why do you continually blame arum? floyd is the one who asked for a 20 million guarantee. arum said no the fight is not worth that much. you know how much floyd got when he actually fought oscar? a 10 million guarantee. looks like arum was right.

Of all the intellectually dishonest shit you have ever uttered that takes the cake~


Oscar was not doing **** with Top Rank during that period.

In the end who was right about Floyd's actual worth in the Hatton and Oscar fights which both got mentioned by Arum because Floyd surpassed the number Arum gave as unreasonable.


So your definition of right seems wrong~

[cupocity303]

You were the one that brought up Margarito, and said I haven't heard that debate in a while what was it, so I laid it out for you.

WTF did you think I was talking about lol~ based off my first response.

It wasn't about Margarito per se, but about the argument of not fighting someone because they're not a PPV draw. You got hung up on Margarito and took the conversation somewhere else.

And yes, you can't reply to a long post with a simple, "you asked", especially since the question (I didn't really ask anything, it was a rhetorical question) at hand was made in the previous post, not the one you were responding to. Take my constructive advice and don't be combative about it.

[bravestone]

It wasn't about Margarito per se, but about the argument of not fighting someone because they're not a PPV draw. You got hung up on Margarito and took the conversation somewhere else.

And yes, you can't reply to a long post with a simple, "you asked", especially since the question (I didn't really ask anything, it was a rhetorical question) at hand was made in the previous post, not the one you were responding to. Take my constructive advice and don't be combative about it.

can yu please tell me why trainers and fighters aren't PPV consumers? My dad is a boxing trainer and when I told him your line he laughed pretty heartily.

[The Gambler1981]

It wasn't about Margarito per se, but about the argument of not fighting someone because they're not a PPV draw. You got hung up on Margarito and took the conversation somewhere else.

And yes, you can't reply to a long post with a simple, "you asked", especially since the question (I didn't really ask anything, it was a rhetorical question) at hand was made in the previous post, not the one you were responding to. Take my constructive advice and don't be combative about it.

Yes I can, because you asked a question. I answered it and then you were acting like you didn't know where that came from~

So if you go off on long post about some meaningless **** to what I was talking to you about, I can respond easily with one line.

If I can get my point across in a few words, why waste them~

You are comparing pre-Oscar Floyd statements who was a star but not some transcendent figure in the sport, to current Floyd who is huge and can carry shows by himself. That is not an apples to apples comparison, to which you responded so what before~ is that a legit way to debate~

Don't be a hypocrite ~