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  • #51
    Originally posted by ab4life View Post
    What would you say about a boxer from the 70's and way past his prime having such great success in his comeback in George Foreman?....or a fighter in Mike McCullam that fought in the Hagler Hearns era and still had success with a prime James toney who was at his best at the time?
    Those are great fighters, and I havent seen enough of them to speak about their skill set. But as far as SRL, and his lack of defense goes. I dont see him messing with fighters of today like Floyd, Pac, etc.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
      Yea Floyd is a ducker. But its pretty obvious that boxing has advanced far beyond the small amount of skills they had in the 80's. I dont want you to believe anything.

      Your not a fool. You already know that the 80's have never seen a fighter on this level. Like I said prior, back then the best defense you could get out of SRL was him using his spweed advantage to overwhelm opponents, and his footwork to run away from shots. He really didnt have any defense. But all boxing fans hate to admit that a fighter of this era is more complete than a fighter from that era. We can agree to disagree, because Im not changing my mind. Two completely different levels! Nice tlk, Tnx!
      Pernell Whitaker didn't fight in the 80s? Foh. You're going on about Floyd's defense as if bes actually facing credible threats. Stop already. You're looking really dumb right now. If Floyd was facing top level talent, you'd have a point. However, by Floyd's own admission, these are c and d class fighters. If you're impressed by that, surely you're impressed by Canelo wiping out Lopez in five rounds.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
        Those are great fighters, and I havent seen enough of them to speak about their skill set. But as far as SRL, and his lack of defense goes. I dont see him messing with fighters of today like Floyd, Pac, etc.
        Who was the last fighter with an offense like srl that Floyd fought?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
          Pernell Whitaker didn't fight in the 80s? Foh. You're going on about Floyd's defense as if bes actually facing credible threats. Stop already. You're looking really dumb right now. If Floyd was facing top level talent, you'd have a point. However, by Floyd's own admission, these are c and d class fighters. If you're impressed by that, surely you're impressed by Canelo wiping out Lopez in five rounds.
          Pernell Whitaker is more skilled than SRL LOL. And I dont really see him as being in SRL's era. You may not like Floyd, but one thing you cant say about him, is that he DOESNT fight credible threats. He may DUCK guys, but the guys he fights, are REALLY good opponents. Coming off his Cotto flop, I thought Ghost had the perfect style to mismatch Mayweather. Mayweather fought him, and fought him like the smaller guy. Never did I imagine Floyd being able to use footwork how he did against the taller big boys he fought like Genero and Diego.

          And compare Floyd fighting his last 5 opponents to Canelo fighting Josito Lopez. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually think Ghost is Floyd's toughest opponent in recent years, and I think no one at ww can beat Ghost. Too versitile. Can box, brawl, inside fight, get dirty, make small adjustments on the fly, counterpunch, volume punch. And he's too big for the other ww's. Read my last comment about Ghost. I thought he would beat Floyd.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by ColdCa$hCanelo View Post
            Who was the last fighter with an offense like srl that Floyd fought?
            To me, SRL's offense is nothing special. I think Floyd fighting him, is the same as Floyd fighting any tall, fast handed fighter. Once Floyd lands that first shot, you have to deal with the concept of NOT being able to hit him. And thats when the mental breakdown begins to take place.
            Last edited by MurkaMan; 05-10-2013, 11:58 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
              To me, SRL's offense is nothing special. I think Floyd fighting him, is the same as Floyd fighting any tall, fast handed fighter. Once Floyd lands that first shot, you have to deal with the concept of NOT being able to hit him. And thats when the mental breakdown begins to take place.
              I know yall want to gang up on me so we can debate till the sunrises. But I have to shower. I will be right back to make my points in about 10 to 20 minutes. Dont go to sleep. Its 11:59 here in Texas.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                To me, SRL's offense is nothing special. I think Floyd fighting him, is the same as Floyd fighting any tall, fast handed fighter. Once Floyd lands that first shot, you have to deal with the concept of NOT being able to hit him. And thats when the mental breakdown begans to take place.


                name me an opponent who floyd beat that is equal w/ SRL. is there anyone in his resume right now?

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                • #58
                  y'all are crazy

                  Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
                  you don't have to find ATGs to beat Cherrypicker. winky at 154 would've beaten any 154 lbs version of Cherrypicker. prime Casamayor would've given him hell, so would a prime Cotto at WW, a prime Mosley, a prime Pac, a prime Marg, a prime DLH, etc... but Cherrypicker only fights guys when he knows they are past their primes
                  Comments like these are laughable...but hey, what else do you expect out of the BoxingScene forum?

                  Just accept the abilities that Floyd has and admire them...where else in any other division do you see what he has done? Rigondeaux? Not in the spotlight enough...Broner? Most folks don't like him either. I guess Andre Ward is liked around these parts but that's it...

                  PS - I don't see how one would think Guerrero would beat Floyd when there was no way that he was gonna get away with what he did against Berto...

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by chito View Post
                    name me an opponent who floyd beat that is equal w/ SRL. is there anyone in his resume right now?
                    Floyd's a great fighter but not even close. A put sugar ray ahead of a prime Oscar De la Hoya and a prime Mosley comfortably and even though I don't believe in triangle theories I think either of those 2 in their primes is a tossup with May

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by ab4life View Post
                      140- Aaron Prior- really good power/ speed with great ability to absorb punishment along with a non stop hurricane fighting style. Would be a closer fight with Mayweather being forced to dig deep to a possible late stoppage loss (my opinion...don't hit me )
                      I recommend you watch his fight with Antonio Cervantes and the first Arguello fight to see how much trouble counter-punching caused Pryor.

                      Cervantes in particular. His slickness and counter-punching (not even hard punches) were clearly bothering Pryor, who kept pausing and trying to get back into his rhthym. He did overwhelm Cervantes though.

                      Keep in mind Cervantes is all but shot and Arguello is also past his best by the time he fights them. Counter-punchers cut down volume and that was what Pryor relied on.

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