Comments Thread For: Showtime: Mayweather-Guerrero PPV a Financial Success

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  • Canelo Phresh
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    #111
    Originally posted by Duckweather
    If Showrine have shareholders they can't lie about the numbers.
    The name has me rolling. Havent seen such original hater names since the ptard flmo wars.

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    • Check_hooks
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      #112
      They had around 1500 empty seats during the fight. They obviously tried to give them away as comps but people didn't want them

      They were giving away free tickets and people still didn't want them so when they say this fight did over 1 mill I find it highly su****ious

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      • THE REED
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        #113
        Originally posted by Check_hooks
        They had around 1500 empty seats during the fight. They obviously tried to give them away as comps but people didn't want them

        They were giving away free tickets and people still didn't want them so when they say this fight did over 1 mill I find it highly su****ious
        There isnt a fight where that doesnt take place.

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        • mathed
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          #114
          I had a few people over that helped me pay for it but to be honest, if the Ghost wasn't fighting, I probably would have just streamed it. If he fights anyone but Canelo in September I will stream it regardless if it's $60 or $70

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          • McLeechin
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            #115
            Originally posted by Djanxx
            Whatever way you look at it, Floyd Mayweather wins, you guys are funny
            We know that. We're talking about Showtime's potential losses for such a high risk deal.

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            • ILLuminato
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              #116
              There is no way May-Gu did more than a million. Terrible promotion, no hype really, HBO is way, way, WAYYYY better. Shame.

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              • Bee Keepz
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                #117
                Originally posted by McLeechin
                We know that. We're talking about Showtime's potential losses for such a high risk deal.
                Showtime better get use to it, because there aren't many B-side fighters that will help sell the PPVs.

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                • mathed
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by THE REED™
                  You included zero advertising revenue for any of the promotional televised shows or for the fight itself, also you need to take into account that by the publicity the Mayweather signing news has made, it could increase showtime subscriptions to people who were otherwise on the fence about shobox.

                  There are too many other revenue streams and more accurate expense numbers you are not personally privvy to, to just make a quick summary if Sho banked or not.

                  Also Mayweathers Gaurantee could allso be based on the amount of ppvs tallied, with an upside option of ppv rev share if ppvs exceed anotherhigher number.

                  You dont have the contracts, none of us really know the true numbers. Good or bad.
                  Sanctioning fees, medical fees, lights, lodging, food, etc. Showtime lost out like a mofo on this deal and they know it.

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                  • THE REED
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    Sanctioning fees, medical fees, lights, lodging, food, etc. Showtime lost out like a mofo on this deal and they know it.
                    Not including any business expenses as write offs at the end of the fiscal year.

                    Im open to whoever has whatever opinion on how it did... but be smart enough to know, that you dont know it all.

                    And if you dont... then you dont know how it did.

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                    • check hook
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                      #120
                      personally i thought the fight would do 800-900k, given the switch to Show. A million or over is very good imo. Not sure what this talk is about it not even breaking even at a mil or 900k. A quick back of the envelope tells me:

                      1,000,000 x $69.95 = $70 mil
                      gate = $10 mil

                      this excludes any foreign rights, but let's say $80m total.

                      Floyd at $32 mil and Guerrero @ $3m. Say Floyd has another $8 mil upside from the PPV, and Robert $2mil. Add another $5m for the other fighters on the card. That's $50m.

                      So showtime can't extract a few mill for themselves from the $30m leftover after promoters take their cut, site fee and advertising????

                      If they lost money it's their own fault because they must have given Floyd a SILLY SILLY deal that means he's keeping another $20m on top of the $32 he got on Monday after the match.

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