Richard Schaefer: Mayweather-Alvarez talks set to begin

[Infamous]

Mayweather did 1.4 mil PPV buys with Mosley and nobody knew who Canelo was at the time.Floyd contributed greatly to the Oscar /Floyd PPV.Oscar never did anywhere near 2.5 mil PPV buys with other opponents.His Biggest PPV without Floyd was with Trinidad and that fight did 1.4 million ppv buys.Heck Floyd did that with Mosley who has way less fans then Trinidad.

Canelo is Mexican so how many PPV buys did he do?He never even headlined a PPV even though he fought an opponent that was coming off of a win over a big name opponent.Canelo was on the Mosley/Mora PPV undercard and that fight flopped on PPV.


And a lot of Mayweather`s PPV buys come from Black Americans.

This is probably true. I went to the Guerrero fight and there was a lot more blacks than any other race.

[Deeznuts]

We heard it all before. Hope it happens, I want to see a competitive fight

[gmc_rfc_06]

Canelo would be doing well to get 25% against Mayweather.

[hitman smax]

If he asks for 40% or above, he's trippin'. No way no how does Alvarez get a % like that having never headlined a PPV. I bet he'll ask for 40-50% though and everyone will say Floyd is ducking.

Alvarez is in the same position Floyd was against Oscar, actually probably even worse off. Floyd had at least headlined 3 PPV's, selling above 300K every time. Floyd had to take peanuts against Oscar and give him everything.

Exactly, if Canelo wants to be boxing's biggest draw, he's gotta suck it up while negotiating with boxing's biggest draw.

Simple as that.

This is a critical move for Canelo.

[al-Xander]

Sounds like Pacquiao-Mayweather all over again.

People need to stop this Pac/May vs Canelo/May comparison.
It's apples and bananas. The same excuses can't be used
here. There's no Arum to deal with. No drug testing issues.
They're both GBP fighters. They're available and amenable to
the September date, you name it.

So stop this silly comparison. That's the whole point of these
discussions. People will ask, "What's the excuse now?"

[-PBP-]

I got my plate and fork ready. I'd absolutely love some crow at this point when it comes to Floyd.

This situation is different than the other ones. There is no Bob Arum trying to go to Singapore to find investors or build stadiums on the Vegas strip.

Plus GBP already has the rest of the year mapped out for Garcia, Matthysse, Khan, Alexander and Peterson which eliminates all of them out of the immediate picture.

There is really only one option out there right now and that is why it will get done soon.

[zcm]

Hopefully Canelo doesn't ask for too much.

Canelo made 1.25million vs Mosley and made 2million vs Lopez, I'm not sure how much he made vs trout n but wouldn't of thought it was more than 2.5million, I think he might get the same offer or just less than cotto got 8million and a share of the ppv

[Ferrarijones]

Canelo's team will say: "Look at your last two PPV events without ginger attached.

2009- vs JMM, barely over 1 million buys despite JMM having "a whole country behind him." (Floyd's words)
2013- vs Ghost, preliminary #s show sub 1mil PPV buys, great for everyone else, but crappy for Floyd and a money loss for Showtime.
You really want to risk another sub par PPV event against Khan, Alexander, or Garcia?

Actually Canelo was on the undercard of the Mayweather - Marquez fight. I think it was the first PPV he was ever on and was a virtual unknown amongst fans at the time. So Floyd actually helped introduce the Ginger to the US fans.

[Scarcaztic]

This situation is different than the other ones. There is no Bob Arum negotiations, and Floyd being scared of Pac.

Plus GBP already has the rest of the year mapped out for Garcia, Matthysse, Khan, Alexander and Peterson which eliminates all of them out of the immediate picture.

There is really only one option out there right now and that is why it will get done soon.

Good point. The ball is in Floyd's court. Whatcha gonna do boy?

[MrRolltide91]

On point and I agree. Some people would rather the fight not happen just so they can accuse Floyd of ducking. Not that they are interested in the matchup.

Despite the facts that:

1. He hasn't vacated his belt at 154
2. The fight is currently being negotiated
3. He has 6 more months to defend his title
4. He said he is going to defend his title later this year
5. It's the biggest fight that can be made in the sport right now and the opponent is under the same promotional team


Facts are facts. The fight will be signed in a couple of weeks and a lot of people are going to be eating crow.

i say its a 85% chance this fight happens in sept