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  • Prime 407
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    #61
    Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
    BECAUSE THE ARGUEMENT IS ALVARADO DESERVES THE FIGHT, NOT RIOS. You're the thick-headed one. No, Mike Alvarado isn't out for the year, his ****ing manager was in the middle of negotiating this fight for SEPTEMBER. Do you not read the articles on the main page? This was recent as of LAST WEEK.
    He has a hand injury, what would you like Manny to do? Wait another year til Mike is healed and ready to fight?

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    • Bigg Rigg
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      #62
      This isn't a bad fight. Will be very entertaining too. Mikes hand is hurt so it really didn't leave PAC with another option.

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      • joesaiditstrue
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        #63
        Originally posted by Prime 407
        He has a hand injury, what would you like Manny to do? Wait another year til Mike is healed and ready to fight?
        the hand injury is bogus IMO



        Arum was told the injury would be fine for a November fight, but because Mike missed a Dr's appointment, he skipped him. hahahahahaha

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        • Frokid
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          #64
          Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
          BECAUSE THE ARGUEMENT IS ALVARADO DESERVES THE FIGHT, NOT RIOS. You're the thick-headed one. No, Mike Alvarado isn't out for the year, his ****ing manager was in the middle of negotiating this fight for SEPTEMBER. Do you not read the articles on the main page? This was recent as of LAST WEEK.
          Recent as of last week? I Steve Kim of Maxboxing just said Alvarado is out for the rest of the year 4 hours ago? Obviously his hand has been hurting for a bit and who knows maybe part of the reason the Pac fight fell through (although in your defence, my su****ion is that its not).
          Btw I asked you to reclarify your last sentence 2 posts ago. You didnt so heres my answer based on my interpretation.
          If Rios is better than Alvarado, then as youre logic says, it is not a tune up fight. Im not putting words in your mouth, thats simply what you stated. If it is not a tune up fight why the **** are you still here?
          If Alvarado is better than Rios, then as youre logic says, the Pac-Rios is a tune up fight. BUT DIDNT I ALREADY SAY THAT PAC CAN BE FORGIVEN IF HE HAS A TUNE UP FIGHT. THATS MY ARGUMENT DUDE! Let's leave it at that?

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          • Prime 407
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            #65
            Originally posted by Frokid
            Recent as of last week? I Steve Kim of Maxboxing just said Alvarado is out for the rest of the year 4 hours ago? Obviously his hand has been hurting for a bit and who knows maybe part of the reason the Pac fight fell through (although in your defence, my su****ion is that its not).
            Btw I asked you to reclarify your last sentence 2 posts ago. You didnt so heres my answer based on my interpretation.
            If Rios is better than Alvarado, then as youre logic says, it is not a tune up fight. Im not putting words in your mouth, thats simply what you stated. If it is not a tune up fight why the **** are you still here?
            If Alvarado is better than Rios, then as youre logic says, the Pac-Rios is a tune up fight. BUT DIDNT I ALREADY SAY THAT PAC CAN BE FORGIVEN IF HE HAS A TUNE UP FIGHT. THATS MY ARGUMENT DUDE! Let's leave it at that?
            Don't worry about it too much mate, the thread starter is just hating as hard as he can. Throughout the history of boxing, whenever a fighter has had a hard KO loss, they always come back against a SOFT opponent. The thing here is, Rios isn't that soft, he's a good B+ fighter with power and it will be an entertaining fight that will also answer questions about Pac's longevity in the sport.

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            • joesaiditstrue
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              #66
              Originally posted by Frokid
              Recent as of last week? I Steve Kim of Maxboxing just said Alvarado is out for the rest of the year 4 hours ago? Obviously his hand has been hurting for a bit and who knows maybe part of the reason the Pac fight fell through (although in your defence, my su****ion is that its not).
              Btw I asked you to reclarify your last sentence 2 posts ago. You didnt so heres my answer based on my interpretation.
              If Rios is better than Alvarado, then as youre logic says, it is not a tune up fight. Im not putting words in your mouth, thats simply what you stated. If it is not a tune up fight why the **** are you still here?
              If Alvarado is better than Rios, then as youre logic says, the Pac-Rios is a tune up fight. BUT DIDNT I ALREADY SAY THAT PAC CAN BE FORGIVEN IF HE HAS A TUNE UP FIGHT. THATS MY ARGUMENT DUDE! Let's leave it at that?
              No, you're twisting the arguement around, deflecting it away from what a previous poster already stated. You can't have two people arguing for why Rios is a better alternative than Alvarado but have one person saying Rios is a tougher opponent for Pacquiao, and have the other person say Rios is a tune-up fight. Do you not understand this? Go back and read the entire arguement before posting your thoughts.

              I'm not buying the Alvarado hand injury, so I'm not commenting on it more than I already have. Read the Denver Post news article I just linked. Something sounds fishy to me.

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              • ADP02
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                #67
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                The standards are different. A manny fight need only be entertaining to be ppv worthy. But a floyd ppv must be one where floyd is likely to lose to his opponent or its crap. Lets apply the floyd standard to manny. Is the rios fight one where manny is likely to lose?
                Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                you got it, this is exactly the reason Arum made this fight. pacfarts need to stop with the nonsense that Alvarado has a hand injury. ALVARADO'S MANAGER ALMOST HAD THE FIGHT SIGNED FOR SEPTEMBER.
                People are saying that Alvarado is out because of this (see below). Still needs to be confirmed I presume.

                Someone posted this:
                RT @stevemaxboxing: Alvarado's manager, Henry Delgado says that 'Mile High' is out the rest of the year, his right-hands is still bothering him.... #boxing


                Now let's get on topic: Being that Alvarado is out, Rios was the next option since BOTH Marquez and Bradley didn't want to fight Manny. Manny wanted to fight them.

                Secondly, Floyd has been cherry picking for like forever but have you guys been complaining about that?

                "Who is Guerrero? Who has he fought? I'm no Berto!" - Floyd Mayweather

                He tells you guys in your face yet you guys keep on protecting him!!!
                Last edited by ADP02; 05-06-2013, 09:46 PM.

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                • KaL-EL
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                  #68
                  hahahaa people are losing sleep because of who pac's next opponent is

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                  • joesaiditstrue
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Prime 407
                    Don't worry about it too much mate, the thread starter is just hating as hard as he can. Throughout the history of boxing, whenever a fighter has had a hard KO loss, they always come back against a SOFT opponent. The thing here is, Rios isn't that soft, he's a good B+ fighter with power and it will be an entertaining fight that will also answer questions about Pac's longevity in the sport.
                    I'm not hating on Pacquiao as a fighter, I'm hating on the fact that he's hand-picking/cherry picking fighters that are tailor made for himi to look good. Get over it. Check my thread a while back where I gave Pacquiao credit for fights other Floyd nuthuggers try to discredit him for.

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                    • jov6388
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SpeedKillz
                      i agree with your your post except where you say "rios is no joke." thats where you lose credibility, cause rios IS a joke. he is probably the biggest joke in all of boxing, bigger than JCC jr. rios is a tomato can - a flat footed, skill-less, craftless, BUM. with that said, the other part of your post is well written
                      im a no fan of rios far from it but to say he is a joke is just not liking every style in boxing ... what i said is he's no joke.. but not elite and shouldn't last with pac ... rios is a brawler tough chin good pop solid work rate .. does he beat all the great fighters in the 140-147 division .. no! but he will make them work that is what some of fans don't get ... sakio bika is perfect example or emanuel augustus never elite but far from jokes list continues ...

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