How many fights does Wlad have left?

[The Hammer]

Wlad's last chance on HBO was terrible. Yes Haye fought cowardly but wlad wasn't much better. Its hard to blame HBO for not putting him on again unless they know he gets a KO.

Why were they (and currently Showtime) so willing to show Floyd Mayweather?

Your favorite fighter Floyd doesn't even TRY for a KO, he just runs and potshots to win dull decisions (unless he sees a chance to land a sucker punch).

You have blatant double standards, Big Dunn.

[The Hammer]

[The Big Dunn]

Why were they (and currently Showtime) so willing to show Floyd Mayweather?

Your favorite fighter Floyd doesn't even TRY for a KO, he just runs and potshots to win dull decisions (unless he sees a chance to land a sucker punch).

You have blatant double standards, Big Dunn.

SO I'm the reason HBO/SHowtime put floyd on and not wlad?

more fans watch floyd than wlad. Again, if wlad got ratings he'd be on. Period. Floyd gets ratings with or without a KO. WLad, without a KO, looked ****ty on HBO in his l;ast fight and that is likely driving their decision. Blame them not me.

It seems the networks have the double standard. Take it up with them.

[FrankieBruno]

Wlads in his prime, so he still has many fights left in him

Haye has yet to reach his prime as a HW, if he can put together say a 3 streak win over good opponents, he will grow as a boxer

Fury is yet to reach his prime, although I don't think he will get any much better

Price still has a question mark

Wilder needs to learn how to throw punches

Pulev is probs in his prime

Chisora has to wipe away his ring rust

[gmc_rfc_06]

Based on Wlad's recent competition level, he could easily keep doing this for another 5 or so years.

Pianetta, Mormeck, Wach....these guys are complete no hopers.

[Cuban Linx]

Wlad's chin is as bad as it ever was. He's been stunned from single shots in 3 of his last 5 fights: Haye, Wach and now Pinata. The question is: can anyone land a followup shot?

If Wlad slows down just a hair he is a dead man. He will NEVER fight Haye again. Trust that.

What exactly does 'stunned' mean?

The reason that Haye shot didn't hurt him is because It was a slap. Haye connected, but that was at the end of his punch, while Wlad was moving backward. That's basically why all of Haye's punches had no big effect on Wlad. He had a hard time connecting clean. He was catching Wlad at the end of his punches because he could not get inside.

[FrankieBruno]

Unlike Floyd, Wlad has never ducked anyone.

Wladimir Klitschko is a greater champion than Floyd Mayweather.

Wlad never avenged his loss against Saunders, he was shook to step back in the ring

Also lets not forget Puritty

Fact is the HW division sucks

Its full of D-rate fighters, who look flabby sick.

The smaller divisions are packed with competition with guys who push their body to the limit

The Ghost>>>>any fat sloppy HW

I give credit to Wlad for keeping fit, I even give credit to Haye for training hard, but he is stilla CW pretending to be a HW and being better than 99% of todays HWs.

The HW's use to take pride in their bodies, a lot of these guys should not be in the ring

[Simurgh]

i'm not under the impression Haye would win a rematch. I have stated many times that Wlad's style is all wrong for Haye, including before they fought. Vitali's more static style suits Haye a lot better and that was always the fight he should have taken. Wlad is faster than people think, incl Haye.

That being said, there's a chance of an upset and it's certainly more than the 2% Simurgh is giving it.




Yes, that was pretty much Haye at his worst. Haye was far more confident in any of the fights you mentioned, he moved better (not in the Ruiz fight when he was slightly out of shape coming in at 222 pounds or something crazy like that).

Haye has proven himself against many tall fighters in the past. Valuev, Gurov, Audley to name a few - the thing is, neither of those three or anyone else for that matter has the skillset that Wlad possesses. So he could KO all the tall guys in the division within 3 rounds, it still wouldn't help him against Wlad.

What he should do, is be willing to take more risks. Land that left jab and rough Wlad up. If he holds, he gives him a rabbit punch or a punch to the ribs or try an uppercut.

He should focus a lot more on his inside game, because when you get on Wlad's chest, you will take away his best weapon - the jab. Landing short right hands to Wlad's chin would really test him and Haye is probably the best finisher in the division, once he has someone hurt.

For the record, I don't see how you can say Wlad was close to KOing Haye, when he wasn't even slightly hurt in the fight. Wlad, however, did buckle 2 inches (you could see he was the same height as Haye) in that 3rd round. Following up with aggression would be key here, because Wlad doesn't fight out of trouble. He holds and clinches and leans.

I respectably disagree.

Haye doesn't have a good inside game. He never fights inside, he can't just all of the sudden become an inside boxer. But even if he can I don't think that helps a lot. Wlad has exceptionally precise short hooks. Haye would be in great dangerous if he becomes open once inside.

On top of that Haye himself admitted he can't do much inside as Wlad is physically just too strong for him. Haye is an ambush fighter and stylistically Wlad is the worst possible match-up for him.
Doesn't matter what he does tactically he can't beat Wlad. So again there is a puncher's chance left... 2% or 10% it doesn't matter as it won't happen. If they ever fight again it will be either wide UD or Haye is getting knocked out.

[Weltschmerz]

Wlad never avenged his loss against Saunders, he was shook to step back in the ring

Also lets not forget Puritty

Fact is the HW division sucks

Its full of D-rate fighters, who look flabby sick.

The smaller divisions are packed with competition with guys who push their body to the limit

The Ghost>>>>any fat sloppy HW

I give credit to Wlad for keeping fit, I even give credit to Haye for training hard, but he is stilla CW pretending to be a HW and being better than 99% of todays HWs.

The HW's use to take pride in their bodies, a lot of these guys should not be in the ring

The Klitschko's are super fit super heavies, something the world never saw before. They would humiliate any of the past champs.

[Jack Napier]

as many as he wants
it's been yrs since Wlad took any serious punishment
the guy barely ever loses even a single rd
he always stays in shape too, not much damage on him
even his KO losses weren't terrible beatings, he just got stopped
Wlad can reign until he gets bored or his body betrays him