How many fights does Wlad have left?

[Weltschmerz]

Wilder is never fighting a live body. Don't put him in the list.

He just fought Harrison. His next fight will probably be against a live contender.

[LacedUp]

I watched Wlad-Pianetta on SKY UK and Haye was commenting prior and after the fight.

He talked about his fight with Wlad. I am telling you that he doesn't believe he would have much of a chance with present Wlad. There is absolutely nothing Haye can do to threat Wlad if Wlad chooses not to risk.

Haye is the one who would need to take a risk. So only way how Haye can win is to KO wlad.
To do that he would need to go through jab, go through right hand and left hook, then when he comes inside he would need to find Wlad. Wlad dodges punches extremely well (it was obvious in Pianetta fight as well, Wlad didn't use his guard at all, he was dodging). Then he would need to connect with a few (he isn't going to KO wlad with a single punch). Wlad is much stronger physically, so even when Haye is inside Wlad can clinch and that would take a lot of energy from Haye.

I just don't see it. Much better fighters than Haye wouldn't be able to do that.
But as this is boxing, Haye will always have a punchers chance. Only that's like 2-3%...

Actually Haye was in a quite admiration of Wlad's skills.

Keep it real mate,

That was Haye at his worst and Wlad at his best. Now, Haye was maybe at his worst because of Wlad, but based on one fight that went the distance you cannot say there's only 2-3 % chance of a Haye win. I'm glad you upped that from 49/50 by the way.

If there's one thing everybody knows in boxing, it is to not underestimate the puncher. Wlad hasn't got as weak a chin as many people claim, but it's certainly not the best either. Look at how Wach rocked him in round 7 I believe it was. Pretty much the only time Wach connected in the fight and he still managed to shake Wlad up. He did recover well though.

He buckled in that 3rd round against Haye and that has got to give Haye some confidence. They know each other better now, and therefore there's a greater chance of a KO either way.

[Weltschmerz]

Keep it real mate,

That was Haye at his worst and Wlad at his best. Now, Haye was maybe at his worst because of Wlad, but based on one fight that went the distance you cannot say there's only 2-3 % chance of a Haye win. I'm glad you upped that from 49/50 by the way.

If there's one thing everybody knows in boxing, it is to not underestimate the puncher. Wlad hasn't got as weak a chin as many people claim, but it's certainly not the best either. Look at how Wach rocked him in round 7 I believe it was. Pretty much the only time Wach connected in the fight and he still managed to shake Wlad up. He did recover well though.

He buckled in that 3rd round against Haye and that has got to give Haye some confidence. They know each other better now, and therefore there's a greater chance of a KO either way.

Andrew, we're gonna have ourselves a good bet once this fight happens again.

[Simurgh]

Keep it real mate,

That was Haye at his worst and Wlad at his best. Now, Haye was maybe at his worst because of Wlad, but based on one fight that went the distance you cannot say there's only 2-3 % chance of a Haye win. I'm glad you upped that from 49/50 by the way.

If there's one thing everybody knows in boxing, it is to not underestimate the puncher. Wlad hasn't got as weak a chin as many people claim, but it's certainly not the best either. Look at how Wach rocked him in round 7 I believe it was. Pretty much the only time Wach connected in the fight and he still managed to shake Wlad up. He did recover well though.

He buckled in that 3rd round against Haye and that has got to give Haye some confidence. They know each other better now, and therefore there's a greater chance of a KO either way.

49/50=98/100 = 98%

I don't think that was Haye at his worse at all. He was better than in Valuev fight, I haven't seen much in Audley fight, Ruiz and Chisorra were good but those are small men comparing to Wlad.
Haye was much faster actually and he fought a smart fight to be honest. If he pressured it more I really think he would be KOed. If the one that Wlad landed in 6th round was just a bit more clear Haye could have finished as Chambers.

So unless Haye fights taller fighter (Tyson, Helenius - not that they are nowhere near Wlad's level) and shows that he can be as effective as against come forward smaller fighters I can't assume he possess something special to threat Wlad...

As for Wach I don't think Wlad was that hurt. His reaction was just very good, not to engage till he is all recovered. He took big punches earlier as well (Chagaev, Thomspon...) And Wlad against Wach was very relaxed not worrying too much - keeping his hands down. Be sure it won't be same against Haye if the rematch ever happens.

I don't know if you watched Wlad-Pianetta on SKY, Haye was commenting. Haye himself described why it's so hard to beat Wlad. He sounded pretty much like admitting he doesn't have much chance.
I really don't see him being able to hit Wlad before being hit and no way he won't be outboxed. We are speaking about huge, fast, powerful, skilful, master of defense Wlad. That leaves those 2-3% - punchers chance - Haye has enough power to KO anyone including ATG HWs, I just don't think he would be anywhere close to be able to land clean.

[Joeyzagz]

Wlad's chin is as bad as it ever was. He's been stunned from single shots in 3 of his last 5 fights: Haye, Wach and now Pinata. The question is: can anyone land a followup shot?

If Wlad slows down just a hair he is a dead man. He will NEVER fight Haye again. Trust that.

[Simurgh]

Wlad's chin is as bad as it ever was. He's been stunned from single shots in 3 of his last 5 fights: Haye, Wach and now Pinata. The question is: can anyone land a followup shot?

If Wlad slows down just a hair he is a dead man. He will NEVER fight Haye again. Trust that.

Can't disagree more. I don't know what you call 'stunned' but if the fighter looks as new 3-5 sec after the shot and dominate for the rest of the round that's pretty much nothing to me.

Wlad just learned how to react properly once hit. He didn't know that when he fought Sanders (he tried to box straight after) and that caused him being TKOed. That won't happen again (or very unlikely)..

It's funny how Wlad is so dominant that people are starting to count how many times he is hit during the whole fight and try to use that for something. Wlad slowing down or being beat will remain just the wet dream for many... Total domination indeed!



Deal with it!

[M Bison]

And who will he fight? I'm thinking he's going to retire at around 40 yrs of age, and he will want to unify all belts before doing so, after Vitali retires for good.

I'd like to see him fight over the next three years:

Povetkin
Pulev
Helenius
Fury
Price
Wilder
Arreola
Stiverne
Haye II

Your thoughts on what Wlad will do?

Helenius I don't see the need in that fight happening to be honest aswell as Arreola he has nothing to gain from beating those two in my opinion.

Stiverne and Wilder will be easy work for Wladimir, Wlad ain't going to let you get away with wildly swinging like a banshee.

I would however love to see David Haye get humbled again, I mean he's so fake and what annoys me is the British media lap it up and buy into his bull**** and lies, he's fighting Manuel Charr who a 41 year old Vitali Klitschko done easily!
He is proving nothing by this fight, I predict if Haye v Klitschko 2 happens Haye will once again go into survival mode then whilst getting interviewed he will break into a song and dance singing Jackson 5's big hit song

Blame it on the toe-y

However I feel Kubrat Pulev is the main man in the heavyweight division besides me wanting Fury to beat him, I just see Pulev being too much for Fury and being the one to actually give Wladimir a bit of a test.

[hugh grant]

Floyd and his fan s think Floyd is so good that he can still do it at36, yet here is Wlad at 37 seemingly even better than ever and almost unbeatable now.

Floyd has always been a charity case, poor lil Floyd.

[Weltschmerz]

Wlad's chin is as bad as it ever was. He's been stunned from single shots in 3 of his last 5 fights: Haye, Wach and now Pinata. The question is: can anyone land a followup shot?

If Wlad slows down just a hair he is a dead man. He will NEVER fight Haye again. Trust that.

What a load of bollocks.

Haye never had Wlad stunned. Wach actually had Wlad in more trouble momentarily than Haye ever had.

Wlad's not been down since the first Peter fight, which is almost 8 years ago. He simply doesn't get hit anymore.

[Weltschmerz]

Floyd and his fan s think Floyd is so good that he can still do it at36, yet here is Wlad at 37 seemingly even better than ever and almost unbeatable now.

Floyd has always been a charity case, poor lil Floyd.

Unlike Floyd, Wlad has never ducked anyone.

Wladimir Klitschko is a greater champion than Floyd Mayweather.