Comments Thread For: CompuBox Stats: Mayweather Landed 60% of His Power

[IronDanHamza]

After the fight.

Before the fight.











Does this not embarrass you? You are pathetic.

You missed a lot off.

I must say, I'm surprised.

I knew that Mathed picked Cotto to stop Mayweather than changed his tune after the fight but the amount of times he not only flat out said that Guererro was a legit and tough challenge but implied on numerous occasions that Guererro would win the fight, I thought he'd give his props after the fight. I guess not.

A quote like this for example. The first post on this page of his thread;

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586346&page=5

In response to a thread where the question asked is "Is anyone worried Mayweather does a Gatti on Guererro?"

He replies with;

People should be worried about Mayweather catching that first career loss instead to be honest.

Clearly implying that Mayweather will, or has a high chance of losing the fight.

It's a shame. There's no pleasing some people, evidently.

[r__mutt]

Sadly, you're argument is a double edged sword.

Manny catchweighted Cotto at 145 after he got dominated and demoralized by a plaster fisted Margarito. , Oscar at 145 after he got beat by Floyd., beat Mosley after Floyd Dominated him and toyed with him. , and Hatton after Floyd took his undefeated confidence and TKO'd him.

Marquez weighed the same for the Floyd fight as he did for Pac/Marquez IV which 143. Floyd came in at 146, which is 2 pounds above what they agreed upon. Pac came in at the 147 limit against Marquez.

There isn't anyone that Manny beat worth mentioning that Floyd didn't first.

Manny didn't have to fight, Corrales, Gatti, Judah, Hernandez, Corley, or Castillo who came in as a Welter against Floyd both times.

Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Hatton undefeated, Mosley after he dominated Margarito, Victor Ortiz off fight of the year, and Guerrero who is the 3rd ranked Welter.

No matter the 4 pound weight advantage he toyed with Marquez as well.

Floyd gets penalized for being too good. When he dominates fighters that would give any other fighter a problem, its considered cherry picking.

While Floyd was beating Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez, N'dou, Gatti, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Judah.

Manny was losing to Morales, and fighting Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov, Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym. ( I know right, who's that?)

Manny's mystique really began when he was supposed to be the one to beat Floyd.

That's where it all started. But anyone who knows boxing knows there is no way that Manny would beat Floyd. He can't outbox him. He could potentially win a KO, but I believe Floyd's defense is too good for that. It'd be incredibly one sided to be honest.

If Manny has done better than Floyd against their mutual competition then why has Every fighter who has fought them both has said that Floyd would win.

He doesn't have one punch KO power and that is what keeps him disciplined. and why he never gets too wild and can avoid getting tagged.

What he does better than anyone else is make his opponents gun shy. Not KO power but enough power to make his opponents respect him. Its simple human trial and error. If you do something, and the outcome is severe punishment without any reward, you dont wanna do it anymore.

It happened to Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Oscar, and Marquez, and Mosley, and Judah, and Chico, and everyone else.

Gatti is a prime example. Known for Brawling and having the heart of a lion, was incredibly gunshy when Floyd took it to him. He didn't even wanna swing back after a while.

Manny is a great fighter. One of the greatest of our time. But you can run into another Pacquiao and we almost did in Donaire. THAT FAST.

Fighters like Floyd don't come around top often.

Fighters with Elite Defense. Elite Offense, Elite Accuracy, Elite Defense, Moderate Power, Elite Speed, Elite Elusiveness, Elite Stamina, Elite inside game, Elite Jab and Right hand, elite chin, Elite Ring Generalship, Elite CounterPunching, and Elite Adaptation. He has all that. And It's sad that so many people who should be appreciating the privilege to watch the Marvel that he is fight, waste time disrespecting and discrediting him.

Im not disrespecting Pacquiao either. like I said he's great. I never called him out his name. He's not "wacquiao" or "nanny". He's Manny Pacquiao. But he is several tiers lower than Floyd.

A great fighter, just not quite there yet.


If you really think Pacquiao would beat Floyd, I just have one question.
How would he do it? Everytime I ask someone that, they can never answer it. Can you sir?

Floyd would counter Manny all night, right hand lead after right hand lead. The worst part is, is that Floyd is the bigger man so Manny's only hope would be to outbox him because he wouldn't be able push him around and rough him up.

Not disrespecting you or your opinion, just stating mine. as well as some facts, which you could find anywhere living in our beautiful era of instant search engines.

Probably the best post I've read on these forums. Kudos to you sir.

[r__mutt]

Ahaha didn't even catch mathed's bull****. This thread is so awesome right now.

[iniduoh]

Sadly, you're argument is a double edged sword.

Manny catchweighted Cotto at 145 after he got dominated and demoralized by a plaster fisted Margarito. , Oscar at 145 after he got beat by Floyd., beat Mosley after Floyd Dominated him and toyed with him. , and Hatton after Floyd took his undefeated confidence and TKO'd him.

Marquez weighed the same for the Floyd fight as he did for Pac/Marquez IV which 143. Floyd came in at 146, which is 2 pounds above what they agreed upon. Pac came in at the 147 limit against Marquez.

There isn't anyone that Manny beat worth mentioning that Floyd didn't first.

Manny didn't have to fight, Corrales, Gatti, Judah, Hernandez, Corley, or Castillo who came in as a Welter against Floyd both times.

Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Hatton undefeated, Mosley after he dominated Margarito, Victor Ortiz off fight of the year, and Guerrero who is the 3rd ranked Welter.

No matter the 4 pound weight advantage he toyed with Marquez as well.

Floyd gets penalized for being too good. When he dominates fighters that would give any other fighter a problem, its considered cherry picking.

While Floyd was beating Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez, N'dou, Gatti, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Judah.

Manny was losing to Morales, and fighting Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov, Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym. ( I know right, who's that?)

Manny's mystique really began when he was supposed to be the one to beat Floyd.

That's where it all started. But anyone who knows boxing knows there is no way that Manny would beat Floyd. He can't outbox him. He could potentially win a KO, but I believe Floyd's defense is too good for that. It'd be incredibly one sided to be honest.

If Manny has done better than Floyd against their mutual competition then why has Every fighter who has fought them both has said that Floyd would win.

He doesn't have one punch KO power and that is what keeps him disciplined. and why he never gets too wild and can avoid getting tagged.

What he does better than anyone else is make his opponents gun shy. Not KO power but enough power to make his opponents respect him. Its simple human trial and error. If you do something, and the outcome is severe punishment without any reward, you dont wanna do it anymore.

It happened to Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Oscar, and Marquez, and Mosley, and Judah, and Chico, and everyone else.

Gatti is a prime example. Known for Brawling and having the heart of a lion, was incredibly gunshy when Floyd took it to him. He didn't even wanna swing back after a while.

Manny is a great fighter. One of the greatest of our time. But you can run into another Pacquiao and we almost did in Donaire. THAT FAST.

Fighters like Floyd don't come around top often.

Fighters with Elite Defense. Elite Offense, Elite Accuracy, Elite Defense, Moderate Power, Elite Speed, Elite Elusiveness, Elite Stamina, Elite inside game, Elite Jab and Right hand, elite chin, Elite Ring Generalship, Elite CounterPunching, and Elite Adaptation. He has all that. And It's sad that so many people who should be appreciating the privilege to watch the Marvel that he is fight, waste time disrespecting and discrediting him.

Im not disrespecting Pacquiao either. like I said he's great. I never called him out his name. He's not "wacquiao" or "nanny". He's Manny Pacquiao. But he is several tiers lower than Floyd.

A great fighter, just not quite there yet.


If you really think Pacquiao would beat Floyd, I just have one question.
How would he do it? Everytime I ask someone that, they can never answer it. Can you sir?

Floyd would counter Manny all night, right hand lead after right hand lead. The worst part is, is that Floyd is the bigger man so Manny's only hope would be to outbox him because he wouldn't be able push him around and rough him up.

Not disrespecting you or your opinion, just stating mine. as well as some facts, which you could find anywhere living in our beautiful era of instant search engines.

You pretty much covered all bases. Any arguments to the contrary shouldn't be taken seriously.