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Originally posted by cautiousghostSadly, you're argument is a double edged sword.
Manny catchweighted Cotto at 145 after he got dominated and demoralized by a plaster fisted Margarito. , Oscar at 145 after he got beat by Floyd., beat Mosley after Floyd Dominated him and toyed with him. , and Hatton after Floyd took his undefeated confidence and TKO'd him.
Marquez weighed the same for the Floyd fight as he did for Pac/Marquez IV which 143. Floyd came in at 146, which is 2 pounds above what they agreed upon. Pac came in at the 147 limit against Marquez.
There isn't anyone that Manny beat worth mentioning that Floyd didn't first.
Manny didn't have to fight, Corrales, Gatti, Judah, Hernandez, Corley, or Castillo who came in as a Welter against Floyd both times.
Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Hatton undefeated, Mosley after he dominated Margarito, Victor Ortiz off fight of the year, and Guerrero who is the 3rd ranked Welter.
No matter the 4 pound weight advantage he toyed with Marquez as well.
Floyd gets penalized for being too good. When he dominates fighters that would give any other fighter a problem, its considered cherry picking.
While Floyd was beating Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez, N'dou, Gatti, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Judah.
Manny was losing to Morales, and fighting Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov, Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym. ( I know right, who's that?)
Manny's mystique really began when he was supposed to be the one to beat Floyd.
That's where it all started. But anyone who knows boxing knows there is no way that Manny would beat Floyd. He can't outbox him. He could potentially win a KO, but I believe Floyd's defense is too good for that. It'd be incredibly one sided to be honest.
If Manny has done better than Floyd against their mutual competition then why has Every fighter who has fought them both has said that Floyd would win.
He doesn't have one punch KO power and that is what keeps him disciplined. and why he never gets too wild and can avoid getting tagged.
What he does better than anyone else is make his opponents gun shy. Not KO power but enough power to make his opponents respect him. Its simple human trial and error. If you do something, and the outcome is severe punishment without any reward, you dont wanna do it anymore.
It happened to Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Oscar, and Marquez, and Mosley, and Judah, and Chico, and everyone else.
Gatti is a prime example. Known for Brawling and having the heart of a lion, was incredibly gunshy when Floyd took it to him. He didn't even wanna swing back after a while.
Manny is a great fighter. One of the greatest of our time. But you can run into another Pacquiao and we almost did in Donaire. THAT FAST.
Fighters like Floyd don't come around top often.
Fighters with Elite Defense. Elite Offense, Elite Accuracy, Elite Defense, Moderate Power, Elite Speed, Elite Elusiveness, Elite Stamina, Elite inside game, Elite Jab and Right hand, elite chin, Elite Ring Generalship, Elite CounterPunching, and Elite Adaptation. He has all that. And It's sad that so many people who should be appreciating the privilege to watch the Marvel that he is fight, waste time disrespecting and discrediting him.
Im not disrespecting Pacquiao either. like I said he's great. I never called him out his name. He's not "wacquiao" or "nanny". He's Manny Pacquiao. But he is several tiers lower than Floyd.
A great fighter, just not quite there yet.
If you really think Pacquiao would beat Floyd, I just have one question.
How would he do it? Everytime I ask someone that, they can never answer it. Can you sir?
Floyd would counter Manny all night, right hand lead after right hand lead. The worst part is, is that Floyd is the bigger man so Manny's only hope would be to outbox him because he wouldn't be able push him around and rough him up.
Not disrespecting you or your opinion, just stating mine. as well as some facts, which you could find anywhere living in our beautiful era of instant search engines.
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Originally posted by cautiousghostSadly, you're argument is a double edged sword.
Manny catchweighted Cotto at 145 after he got dominated and demoralized by a plaster fisted Margarito. , Oscar at 145 after he got beat by Floyd., beat Mosley after Floyd Dominated him and toyed with him. , and Hatton after Floyd took his undefeated confidence and TKO'd him.
Marquez weighed the same for the Floyd fight as he did for Pac/Marquez IV which 143. Floyd came in at 146, which is 2 pounds above what they agreed upon. Pac came in at the 147 limit against Marquez.
There isn't anyone that Manny beat worth mentioning that Floyd didn't first.
Manny didn't have to fight, Corrales, Gatti, Judah, Hernandez, Corley, or Castillo who came in as a Welter against Floyd both times.
Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Hatton undefeated, Mosley after he dominated Margarito, Victor Ortiz off fight of the year, and Guerrero who is the 3rd ranked Welter.
No matter the 4 pound weight advantage he toyed with Marquez as well.
Floyd gets penalized for being too good. When he dominates fighters that would give any other fighter a problem, its considered cherry picking.
While Floyd was beating Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez, N'dou, Gatti, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Judah.
Manny was losing to Morales, and fighting Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov, Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym. ( I know right, who's that?)
Manny's mystique really began when he was supposed to be the one to beat Floyd.
That's where it all started. But anyone who knows boxing knows there is no way that Manny would beat Floyd. He can't outbox him. He could potentially win a KO, but I believe Floyd's defense is too good for that. It'd be incredibly one sided to be honest.
If Manny has done better than Floyd against their mutual competition then why has Every fighter who has fought them both has said that Floyd would win.
He doesn't have one punch KO power and that is what keeps him disciplined. and why he never gets too wild and can avoid getting tagged.
What he does better than anyone else is make his opponents gun shy. Not KO power but enough power to make his opponents respect him. Its simple human trial and error. If you do something, and the outcome is severe punishment without any reward, you dont wanna do it anymore.
It happened to Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Oscar, and Marquez, and Mosley, and Judah, and Chico, and everyone else.
Gatti is a prime example. Known for Brawling and having the heart of a lion, was incredibly gunshy when Floyd took it to him. He didn't even wanna swing back after a while.
Manny is a great fighter. One of the greatest of our time. But you can run into another Pacquiao and we almost did in Donaire. THAT FAST.
Fighters like Floyd don't come around top often.
Fighters with Elite Defense. Elite Offense, Elite Accuracy, Elite Defense, Moderate Power, Elite Speed, Elite Elusiveness, Elite Stamina, Elite inside game, Elite Jab and Right hand, elite chin, Elite Ring Generalship, Elite CounterPunching, and Elite Adaptation. He has all that. And It's sad that so many people who should be appreciating the privilege to watch the Marvel that he is fight, waste time disrespecting and discrediting him.
Im not disrespecting Pacquiao either. like I said he's great. I never called him out his name. He's not "wacquiao" or "nanny". He's Manny Pacquiao. But he is several tiers lower than Floyd.
A great fighter, just not quite there yet.
If you really think Pacquiao would beat Floyd, I just have one question.
How would he do it? Everytime I ask someone that, they can never answer it. Can you sir?
Floyd would counter Manny all night, right hand lead after right hand lead. The worst part is, is that Floyd is the bigger man so Manny's only hope would be to outbox him because he wouldn't be able push him around and rough him up.
Not disrespecting you or your opinion, just stating mine. as well as some facts, which you could find anywhere living in our beautiful era of instant search engines.
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Originally posted by cautiousghostSadly, you're argument is a double edged sword.
Manny catchweighted Cotto at 145 after he got dominated and demoralized by a plaster fisted Margarito. , Oscar at 145 after he got beat by Floyd., beat Mosley after Floyd Dominated him and toyed with him. , and Hatton after Floyd took his undefeated confidence and TKO'd him.
Marquez weighed the same for the Floyd fight as he did for Pac/Marquez IV which 143. Floyd came in at 146, which is 2 pounds above what they agreed upon. Pac came in at the 147 limit against Marquez.
There isn't anyone that Manny beat worth mentioning that Floyd didn't first.
Manny didn't have to fight, Corrales, Gatti, Judah, Hernandez, Corley, or Castillo who came in as a Welter against Floyd both times.
Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Hatton undefeated, Mosley after he dominated Margarito, Victor Ortiz off fight of the year, and Guerrero who is the 3rd ranked Welter.
No matter the 4 pound weight advantage he toyed with Marquez as well.
Floyd gets penalized for being too good. When he dominates fighters that would give any other fighter a problem, its considered cherry picking.
While Floyd was beating Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez, N'dou, Gatti, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Judah.
Manny was losing to Morales, and fighting Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov, Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym. ( I know right, who's that?)
Manny's mystique really began when he was supposed to be the one to beat Floyd.
That's where it all started. But anyone who knows boxing knows there is no way that Manny would beat Floyd. He can't outbox him. He could potentially win a KO, but I believe Floyd's defense is too good for that. It'd be incredibly one sided to be honest.
If Manny has done better than Floyd against their mutual competition then why has Every fighter who has fought them both has said that Floyd would win.
He doesn't have one punch KO power and that is what keeps him disciplined. and why he never gets too wild and can avoid getting tagged.
What he does better than anyone else is make his opponents gun shy. Not KO power but enough power to make his opponents respect him. Its simple human trial and error. If you do something, and the outcome is severe punishment without any reward, you dont wanna do it anymore.
It happened to Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Oscar, and Marquez, and Mosley, and Judah, and Chico, and everyone else.
Gatti is a prime example. Known for Brawling and having the heart of a lion, was incredibly gunshy when Floyd took it to him. He didn't even wanna swing back after a while.
Manny is a great fighter. One of the greatest of our time. But you can run into another Pacquiao and we almost did in Donaire. THAT FAST.
Fighters like Floyd don't come around top often.
Fighters with Elite Defense. Elite Offense, Elite Accuracy, Elite Defense, Moderate Power, Elite Speed, Elite Elusiveness, Elite Stamina, Elite inside game, Elite Jab and Right hand, elite chin, Elite Ring Generalship, Elite CounterPunching, and Elite Adaptation. He has all that. And It's sad that so many people who should be appreciating the privilege to watch the Marvel that he is fight, waste time disrespecting and discrediting him.
Im not disrespecting Pacquiao either. like I said he's great. I never called him out his name. He's not "wacquiao" or "nanny". He's Manny Pacquiao. But he is several tiers lower than Floyd.
A great fighter, just not quite there yet.
If you really think Pacquiao would beat Floyd, I just have one question.
How would he do it? Everytime I ask someone that, they can never answer it. Can you sir?
Floyd would counter Manny all night, right hand lead after right hand lead. The worst part is, is that Floyd is the bigger man so Manny's only hope would be to outbox him because he wouldn't be able push him around and rough him up.
Not disrespecting you or your opinion, just stating mine. as well as some facts, which you could find anywhere living in our beautiful era of instant search engines.
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostHe stood toe to toe with Mosley Ortiz and Cotto and the haters were in raptures because he got a blood nose , lol the fkn idiots lol .
Then they said he is only standing toe to toe because his legs are shot , so he boxes like he floats on ice and now he is a runner again , these idiots dont know **** about boxing .
The little kid haters are such losers , every time Floyd schools somebody in the ring the haters get KOed again .
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Originally posted by cautiousghostSadly, you're argument is a double edged sword.
Manny catchweighted Cotto at 145 after he got dominated and demoralized by a plaster fisted Margarito. , Oscar at 145 after he got beat by Floyd., beat Mosley after Floyd Dominated him and toyed with him. , and Hatton after Floyd took his undefeated confidence and TKO'd him.
Marquez weighed the same for the Floyd fight as he did for Pac/Marquez IV which 143. Floyd came in at 146, which is 2 pounds above what they agreed upon. Pac came in at the 147 limit against Marquez.
There isn't anyone that Manny beat worth mentioning that Floyd didn't first.
Manny didn't have to fight, Corrales, Gatti, Judah, Hernandez, Corley, or Castillo who came in as a Welter against Floyd both times.
Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Hatton undefeated, Mosley after he dominated Margarito, Victor Ortiz off fight of the year, and Guerrero who is the 3rd ranked Welter.
No matter the 4 pound weight advantage he toyed with Marquez as well.
Floyd gets penalized for being too good. When he dominates fighters that would give any other fighter a problem, its considered cherry picking.
While Floyd was beating Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez, N'dou, Gatti, Castillo, Manfreddy, and Judah.
Manny was losing to Morales, and fighting Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov, Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym. ( I know right, who's that?)
Manny's mystique really began when he was supposed to be the one to beat Floyd.
That's where it all started. But anyone who knows boxing knows there is no way that Manny would beat Floyd. He can't outbox him. He could potentially win a KO, but I believe Floyd's defense is too good for that. It'd be incredibly one sided to be honest.
If Manny has done better than Floyd against their mutual competition then why has Every fighter who has fought them both has said that Floyd would win.
He doesn't have one punch KO power and that is what keeps him disciplined. and why he never gets too wild and can avoid getting tagged.
What he does better than anyone else is make his opponents gun shy. Not KO power but enough power to make his opponents respect him. Its simple human trial and error. If you do something, and the outcome is severe punishment without any reward, you dont wanna do it anymore.
It happened to Guerrero, and Ortiz, and Oscar, and Marquez, and Mosley, and Judah, and Chico, and everyone else.
Gatti is a prime example. Known for Brawling and having the heart of a lion, was incredibly gunshy when Floyd took it to him. He didn't even wanna swing back after a while.
Manny is a great fighter. One of the greatest of our time. But you can run into another Pacquiao and we almost did in Donaire. THAT FAST.
Fighters like Floyd don't come around top often.
Fighters with Elite Defense. Elite Offense, Elite Accuracy, Elite Defense, Moderate Power, Elite Speed, Elite Elusiveness, Elite Stamina, Elite inside game, Elite Jab and Right hand, elite chin, Elite Ring Generalship, Elite CounterPunching, and Elite Adaptation. He has all that. And It's sad that so many people who should be appreciating the privilege to watch the Marvel that he is fight, waste time disrespecting and discrediting him.
Im not disrespecting Pacquiao either. like I said he's great. I never called him out his name. He's not "wacquiao" or "nanny". He's Manny Pacquiao. But he is several tiers lower than Floyd.
A great fighter, just not quite there yet.
If you really think Pacquiao would beat Floyd, I just have one question.
How would he do it? Everytime I ask someone that, they can never answer it. Can you sir?
Floyd would counter Manny all night, right hand lead after right hand lead. The worst part is, is that Floyd is the bigger man so Manny's only hope would be to outbox him because he wouldn't be able push him around and rough him up.
Not disrespecting you or your opinion, just stating mine. as well as some facts, which you could find anywhere living in our beautiful era of instant search engines.
Green K
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostHe stood toe to toe with Mosley Ortiz and Cotto and the haters were in raptures because he got a blood nose , lol the fkn idiots lol .
Then they said he is only standing toe to toe because his legs are shot , so he boxes like he floats on ice and now he is a runner again , these idiots dont know **** about boxing .
The little kid haters are such losers , every time Floyd schools somebody in the ring the haters get KOed again .
True boxing fans know the truth.You cant fix '******'-it just cant be done
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Originally posted by mathed View PostThe Ghost was over matched from the git go, cherry picked from the finest cherry tree around; Floyd gets no respect from me.
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Originally posted by snoopymiller View PostHe must be the weakest puncher of all time to land that much and do so little damage
If he sat down on his punches he would have plenty of power, but he doesn't.
Floyds right hand is nothing but speed, in and out quickly, watch him throw that right hand from a mile out and land almost every time and look at his back foot in the air as he lands that right. That's why there is no power on that right hand. He stretches so far that his power from driving off his back foot is gone.
Back foot is waving in the air and he's pivoting/twisting on the front foot before his punch lands so he can escape a counter.
That's how I see it.
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