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  • #61
    Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
    Well good cause he can have it. The only thing I'm stroking is a ***** stuffed full of common sense my man.

    You and that guy aren't making a hell of a lot of it.
    That comment was tongue in cheek.

    The truth is that you are just rehashing points and opinions in defense of Wlad, that I've been making on here years ago, and have articulated it in much better fashion with better grammar to boost. I'm light years ahead of you on this. I've moved on since then.

    I let you and Laced Up get to it, i've got better things to do, like choking the bishop to Thai *******s on redtube.

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    • #62
      Wlad is the greatest....Klitschko of all time.

      Top 20 heavyweight...maybe.

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      • #63
        The prime Vladimir we have seen during the last decade beats any HW in history. Only Lennox and Vitali would give him a fight.

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        • #64
          Prime Vladimir beats Prime Wladimir any day of the week.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View Post
            The prime Vladimir we have seen during the last decade beats any HW in history. Only Lennox and Vitali would give him a fight.
            lamont brewster

            sanders


            LOL

            wlad is good though and if he wins beating top contenders without losing he joins the top 15 HWs of all time

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
              Wladimir wold have belted up most of the 90's HW's just the same as his own opponents. They were even a bit smaller (just saying) and didn't have any more spectacular records really.

              That was a very tough era and they were good opponents too. But prime Wladimir is above their level.

              Holyfield was too small to beat WK I reckon and not that hard to hit. Tyson could have gotten Wlad in the opening rounds, that definitely might have happened. Lennox could have beaten him. Other than that who else would put a stop to Wlad? Or Vitali for that matter?

              Guys don't want to admit it, I loved the 90's too, it was my favourite era. But most of the reasoning for 90's over 00's/10's is based on the fact it was a Western dominated era and now it definitely isn't.

              Many hard hitting 90's boxers would have stood great punchers chance against Wlad as did his own opponents too, there'd be probably an upset or 2 just the same. That's true!
              I just dont see that...lewis would of beat him, bowe,foreman, douglas who fought tyson maybe even holyfield a prime one at that...to me i think wlad would have had hard times with guys like golota, morrison, shultz, moorer to be honest he would win these fights but would be tossups against the first group of fighters i mentioned... anybody ever hear of henry akinwande??
              Last edited by LouIE G; 09-20-2014, 06:50 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by - Ram Raid - View Post
                I'd question that.

                His first conceivable legitimate championship win was over Chris Byrd for the WBO strap in 2000. Lennox Lewis was still the dominant heavyweight on the planet until his retirement in 2003.

                Vitali won the WBC belt in 2004 over Corrie Saunders who had already knocked Wladimir out. Just before Vitali won that strap Wladimir was knocked out again by Lamont Brewster.

                Vitali was boxing's dominant heavyweight, you could argue right until he retired in 2012 (we could question whether his brother surpassed him in the twilight of that reign).

                It's not out of hand then to state that Wladimir has only been the dominant boxer in his division for the last two years.
                Sam peters almost knocked him out as well, emanuelle got him and turned him totally around for the best..wlad now hits and holds.. i dont think that would be good enough to beat the heavyweights of the 90's especially with the style he implements now.. it sure sure is good enough to beat the hws of today doe. I think vitali is a better fighter imo

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                • #68
                  ..........at what?.........................boxing? All Time? Seriously! ...not even close

                  I don't know exactly where he stacks up and I really don't care, he is NOT an ATG boxer but he is the dominate heavy of his era and he certainly deserves credit for that.
                  When you look at form and style and over all skills he's crude and slow and is a one dimensional guy who used to give a good effort however now he's in survival mode. Like Mayweather their done but continue to hand pick opponents that they know won't bring all they have every round.
                  At this stage of their careers they are a detriment to the sport!! Retire please
                  you've earned a lot of money but your killing the sport.
                  Ray.

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                  • #69
                    lol....seriously?


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                    • #70
                      He's white. ATG status tainted.

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