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Why do you even bother to come up with this obvious rubbish Laced Up?
Your slipping badly lately bro.
I reckon Haye was a very lean 210lbs was he not?
And Chris Byrd something like 215.
YOUR champions fought opponents that ACTUALLY would struggle to carry Wladimir's jockstrap ahaha =PComment
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Doesn't really change it was his 6th fight at heavyweight, he was a cruiserweight, fought as a cruiserweight, will be remembered as a cruiserweight and could still, by own admission, make the cruiserweight limit.
Yeah, Chris byrd, the former amateur 141 pounder , is a true heavyweight
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Are you a little bit slow tonight mate?Doesn't really change it was his 6th fight at heavyweight, he was a cruiserweight, fought as a cruiserweight, will be remembered as a cruiserweight and could still, by own admission, make the cruiserweight limit.
Yeah, Chris byrd, the former amateur 141 pounder , is a true heavyweight
I'll break it down a bit for ya.
Most of Louis and all of Rocky's decent opponents were well below 200lbs, which according to one of your delusional mates on another thread today tried to claim were real HW's.
And here I have to point out that when Byrd and Haye fought Wlad and other opponents of his division, they were real 200+ HW's fighting real HW's.
Who gives a **** if Haye fought as a CW and Byrd as a SMW. They stepped up to HW. 6 fights? Yeah after one of the most stellar CW careers of all time, and then started whackin heavies around, before being beaten by Wlad pretty soundly. Sounds like a good win to me!
I suppose by your theory, Evander Holyfield was not a HW either then, cause half his career was at CW?Comment
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OK i'll break it down for you then, they were heavyweights at the time they fought. 175lbs and above was considered heavyweights. Just because they decided to make a new weightclass doesn't take away from their resume. It's only your twisted mind that thinks so.
Louis fought guys 180lbs and guys who were 250lbs.
Once again, if they made a 230 heavyweight limit and a super heavy limit for the above 230lbs, you'd wipe out 90% of Wlad's and Vitali's resume and then I could sit here and say they hardly ever fought any heavyweights
That's so ******ed.
And I never said they weren't good wins, I'm just saying they weren't real heavyweights. Or should I put up Vitali's video from the weigh in: "Haye is not real heavyweight" ?
Byrd fought as a lightwelterweight - that's what I said. He used to be freaking 141 lbs. He ate his way to 210.
Evander Holyfield was always considered a small guy, a small heavyweight and not a true heavyweight when he fought - so why should that change now?
He only moved up to heavy for the money - you would know that if you followed boxing at the time, which you didn't obviously.
But he'll be remembered as a heavyweight because that's where he had his most memorable fights.
Anyways, I'm not going to respond to your boring, same shyt trolling.Comment
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Reminds me of John Lennon's reply to the question of whether Ringo Star was the best drummer in the world; "He's not even the best drummer in The Beatles."
I can see Wladimir acknowledging that his brother betters him. I can't see his fans doing the same.
They've always been a peculiar lot with their coupling of emotional attachment and amnesia. Personally I'm a fan of boxing, I've always found it a little ***** that someone would favour a particular fighter over the sport itself.
He's one of the greatest boxers of all time in terms of application and mindset. He is a remarkable man whose professionalism seems beyond equal.
It would be folly though to confuse that with greatness inside the ring.Comment
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