Is Manuel Charr a satisfactory opponent for David Haye?

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  • Jam Jars
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    #11
    Charr is a C class HW that shouldn't got anywhere near a big fight nevermind 2. Haye and the Klitschko's should be looking at tougher fights than guys like this and the Pinatas of the boxing world. Cherry picks to top up their bank accounts.

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    • FrankieBruno
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      #12
      Charr is a decent opponent

      he gave Vitali run for his money before the Klits family doctor screwed him out

      That was fight was going the full 12 rounds

      Haye has to be careful that he doesn't try to blast him out because Charr is strong enough to do the distance and Haye doesn't want to gas out

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      • dan_cov
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        #13
        Originally posted by Napalm Death
        Haye really can not win can he. If he just calls out Vitali, wanting a fight now, he is just look for a big payday. If he fights his way to contention, he's just waiting for Vitali to get older and more vulnerable.
        He only has himself to blame for his inactivity and unwillingness. He fights even less than Floyd does lol

        I've said for years he has been waiting for Vitali to get old (around 4+ years ago when he was pulling out of fights with Vitali with fake injuries) Vitali has looked **** for 2 years now, he is done. Another 2 years & he'll be needing a walking stick.

        Why isn't he aiming for somebody a bit more fresh I.E A Wlad rematch or Povetkin or even Pulev?
        Lets face it he'll do his usual conning the British public into buying mismatches whilst biding his time until Vitali is 70.

        He'll fight Charr (reasonable opponent at best) then it'll be some old relic like Tony Thompson (Haye supporters will say this is legit even if Price trashes him in the rematch)
        ''Oh hes only lost to Wlad & Price in 10 years/Hes only lost to Wlad & beat 'The great' David Price'' yeah do you know why? Because hes not fought anyone and 13 fight glass-jawed Price don't change that.

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        • Russian Crushin
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          #14
          Of course not. He want a good opponent for Vitali and he isnt a good opponent for a guy that fights once a year.

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          • Jam Jars
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            #15
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            He only has himself to blame for his inactivity and unwillingness. He fights even less than Floyd does lol

            I've said for years he has been waiting for Vitali to get old (around 4+ years ago when he was pulling out of fights with Vitali with fake injuries) Vitali has looked **** for 2 years now, he is done. Another 2 years & he'll be needing a walking stick.

            Why isn't he aiming for somebody a bit more fresh I.E A Wlad rematch or Povetkin or even Pulev?
            Lets face it he'll do his usual conning the British public into buying mismatches whilst biding his time until Vitali is 70.

            He'll fight Charr (reasonable opponent at best) then it'll be some old relic like Tony Thompson (Haye supporters will say this is legit even if Price trashes him in the rematch)
            ''Oh hes only lost to Wlad & Price in 10 years/Hes only lost to Wlad & beat 'The great' David Price'' yeah do you know why? Because hes not fought anyone and 13 fight glass-jawed Price don't change that.
            The Klitschkos are doing the same thing. If you think about it there's not much difference between them and Haye, they'll fight garbage when they can get away with it and so will Haye.

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            • dan_cov
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              Where did this myth come from that Charr gave a heavily faded Vitali a tough fight? The guy got his ass kicked. He lost every round, got dropped, busted up and got stopped in 4 one-sided rounds.

              He only started to fight once it was stopped lol

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                #17
                Originally posted by Own3d
                The Klitschkos are doing the same thing. If you think about it there's not much difference between them and Haye, they'll fight garbage when they can get away with it and so will Haye.
                They have beaten everyone and the ones they haven't 'aren't ready' by their own admission so what do you expect them to do? Sit around waiting doing nothing? They're nothing like Haye they stay active and fight anyone and everyone.

                Maybe Wladimir should take a leaf from Davids book; Beat Pianeta, spend a year on a reality TV show, come back fight some bum like Chisora, take another year out to make a fitness DVD, come back & fight some joker like David Price & so forth.

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                • Jam Jars
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  They have beaten everyone and the ones they haven't 'aren't ready' by their own admission so what do you expect them to do? Sit around waiting doing nothing? They're nothing like Haye they stay active and fight anyone and everyone.

                  Maybe Wladimir should take a leaf from Davids book; Beat Pianeta, spend a year on a reality TV show, come back fight some bum like Chisora, take another year out to make a fitness DVD, come back & fight some joker like David Price & so forth.
                  That's what they would do if they could. Why else would he want his mandatory pushed back to fight ****ing Pinata, it could have been Povetkin this weekend instead if Wlad didn't want to top up his bank against someone that wasn't good enough to be his sparring partner. Look at Wlad's voluntaries most are a lot worse than his mandatory defences, that's no because he's beat everyone else it's because he'll fight crap when he can.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Own3d
                    That's what they would do if they could. Why else would he want his mandatory pushed back to fight ****ing Pinata, it could have been Povetkin this weekend instead if Wlad didn't want to top up his bank against someone that wasn't good enough to be his sparring partner. Look at Wlad's voluntaries most are a lot worse than his mandatory defences, that's no because he's beat everyone else it's because he'll fight crap when he can.

                    Tbf I do not agree with Wlad fighting Pianeta (surely somebody better than that oaf has to be ready & willing) and I never gave him any credit for Mormeck either. I agree his competition as of late especially compared to a few years back has been lackluster but that is mainly down to all these guys saying no. Hes been chasing the Povetkin fight for years but Povetkin has been to busy picking fights with Senior citizens.
                    Teddy Atlas said his fighter wasn't ready & since hes been with Tsyzu hes had chances but chose to fight old men instead.
                    Povetkin will keep.

                    All these guys like Fury, Povetkin etc etc just talk and when it comes down to it they bottle it.

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                    • Dolor
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                      #20
                      you truly are the master of sarcasm...

                      Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                      Charr is a decent opponent
                      he gave Vitali run for his money
                      before the Klits family doctor screwed him out

                      That was fight was going the full 12 rounds

                      Haye has to be careful that he doesn't try to blast him out because Charr is strong enough to do the distance and Haye doesn't want to gas out

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