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  • #81
    Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
    it jus amazes me that with the abundance of information out there, people still revert to methodologies and info from the 70s, like straight up. how someone can post these things and preach and claim them as facts, where the info is right under their nose, is simply beyond me. theres not one thing the guy said that was correct, and it really is flabbergasting that people cannot somehow attain the proper knowledge, which is ALL OVER THE PLACE!! and then argue like they have a valid point, and jus by reading it, it sounds plain ******ed for those who actually knows how macros work in the human body. i still think the guy is heavily trolling though
    Just like the sport of boxing is full of broscience too. Things like.. weightlifting is bad for boxers... where is the evidence?? Go for long runs when HIIT is proven to increase your V02 max at a superior rate...

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    • #82
      Mayweather definitely has the right idea about fighting near his normal weight. Makes sense that he burns more calories than he intakes. Eating poor quality food isn't a very good source of nutrition for someone training at such a high level. Once he retires, those bad eating habits will probably catch up with him in his later years.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
        well the actualy science behind this is

        calories in, calroies out.

        if you lose weight, you're burning more calories than you eat. there is nothing more too it. you can eat ice cream, pizza, whatever you want, at the end of the day if you're burning more calories than you consume you will lose weight.

        it's also a myth that pizza or icecream or anything of that sort is "unhealthy", it's simply 100% false.
        If you only eat pizza and ice cream you're going to feel terrible even if you are reaching the number of calories that you need.

        Sure, calories in vs calories out determines the weight that you gain or loose, but not the way that you feel. This simple formula is not taking in consideration vitamins, minerals, etc.

        If you eat 1000 calories from 1 hamburger with french fries and soda you're going to feel a lot less energetic than if you eat 1000 calories from rice, vegetables and some meat (95% meat 5% fat, not like hamburgers that have like 50% 50%)

        Fats are a lot harder to digest so if your body need fuel you should be eating carbs since they are easier to absorb.

        Floyd may say that he has a good metabolism (which he does) and that he eats all that he wants (which I'm sure he don't) but the truth is that he takes care of himself, I'm 100% sure that he eats healthy and trains hard instead of juts eating ice cream and pizza all of the time.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
          please explain a ketosis diet to me? how is it someone can lean out by eating upwards of 150 grams of fat and upwards of 220 grams of protein? if fat makes you fat, with eating that much fat on the standard 40/30/30 protein/carbs/fat diet, which is it that makes that person gain weight? youre gonna say fat, right? of course you will. thats why your degree is in mathematics, and not in nutrition. simply put - you are wrong. ask any REAL nutritionist. people get fat from their manipulation (or lack thereof) of CARBS, not fats. whole food fats (mono, poly) have high fat oxidation properties. get with the times pal. carbs are the cuplrit for weight gain in a normal, healthy diet. there is no science showing otherwise. you are just incorrect. its ok, not a big deal
          This is how - very simple actually.

          Eating none carbs (or very small amounts that is required for ketosis) would direct your body and say 'hey there is no carbs to be used here, we need to use something else'. So what can body use - FATS!

          Eating fats (but only fats) will help you lose fat. But if you eat lets say 150 gr of fat and 100 gr of carbs that would be very unlikely because your body will use 100 gr of fats and maybe some of fats.

          Now if you eat 500 gr of fat and eating 0 gr carbs that would make you fat as you can't lose all 500 gr of fat regardless that you eat 0 carbs.

          I am not saying that eating fats would make you fat if you use all of itbut the question is what body uses and what body stores. Body stores fat if it isn't used. Eating carbs makes your body store fat (not carbs that is becoming fat) but fat that's already there.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by CaneloFan View Post
            Just like the sport of boxing is full of broscience too. Things like.. weightlifting is bad for boxers... where is the evidence?? Go for long runs when HIIT is proven to increase your V02 max at a superior rate...
            exactly right!! people refuse to do the research themselves, and just rely on some old outdated, non researched info. the nutrition / muscle building has changed dramatically in the past 3 years, let alone the past 10 years, and some morons just refuse to accept facts, and still base their "knowledge" on conjectures, and try to pass it off as fact. and people still say weightlifting is bad for boxers?! and people still say HIIT is not superior to long runs for vo2 levels?! i dont believe it, for real?!?!

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
              Carbohydrate do not convert to fat. Not in the normal healthy body. Lipids (fats) and carbohydrate are VERY different compounds (I am happy to go into the chemistry if you prefer).

              I was very clear about the EFFECT of carbs but it is not DIRECT CONVERSION to FATS by any mean.

              Carbs can't normally be stored in human's body for longer than a few days.
              Body uses fats or crabs as the prime energy source. When there is no carbs fats are used. So if one eats too many carbs, fats are intact and in contrast to carbs, fats can be stored in human's body for the long period of time (in form of body fat).

              Eating fruits and vegetables (very rich in carbs and low in fats) won't make you fat. There is just no material to be stored. carb can't be stored for the longer period and it CAN'T be CONVERTED to FAT (unless there is some disease).
              Some degree of breakdown and subsequent storage of fatty acids in adipose tissue in healthy individuals has been observed as a direct result of excess carbohydrates and glucose. Said transformation and synthesis de novo has been shown to be limited but is definitely present. So carbs can be converted to fat even in healthy bodies. This relation has been the focus of studies and ongoing reasearch by Dr. Marc Hellerstein from UC Berkeley.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
                This is how - very simple actually.

                Eating none carbs (or very small amounts that is required for ketosis) would direct your body and say 'hey there is no carbs to be used here, we need to use something else'. So what can body use - FATS!

                Eating fats (but only fats) will help you lose fat. But if you eat lets say 150 gr of fat and 100 gr of carbs that would be very unlikely because your body will use 100 gr of fats and maybe some of fats.

                Now if you eat 500 gr of fat and eating 0 gr carbs that would make you fat as you can't lose all 500 gr of fat regardless that you eat 0 carbs.

                I am not saying that eating fats would make you fat if you use all of itbut the question is what body uses and what body stores. Body stores fat if it isn't used. Eating carbs makes your body store fat (not carbs that is becoming fat) but fat that's already there.
                you're trolling started out amazing, but has taken a plummet extremely quickly. youre running out of material bud, might as well move on to a new topic to troll. youre gettin shit on pretty hard here.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by charger56 View Post
                  Some degree of breakdown and subsequent storage of fatty acids in adipose tissue in healthy individuals has been observed as a direct result of excess carbohydrates and glucose. Said transformation and synthesis de novo has been shown to be limited but is definitely present. So carbs can be converted to fat even in healthy bodies. This relation has been the focus of studies and ongoing reasearch by Dr. Marc Hellerstein from UC Berkeley.
                  Why have you skipped very important little word I wrote - SIGNIFICANT

                  Process that you described can happen but it happens in amounts that don't affect you in the greater way. It's much much more significant because body is storing the ACTUAL FATS you ate that day.
                  Last edited by Simurgh; 04-30-2013, 05:04 PM.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
                    What's the difference between the conversion of carbs to fats and breaking down to fats? I am not aware of any process in which carbohydrates ALONE become fats (not in the significant amount).

                    What I am saying here is that as noone eats ONLY carbs - there are always fats - so eating more carbs has an EFFECT of storing more fat (but the fat that's already there).

                    Here is the example of ONLY carbs diet (http://www.motleyhealth.com/celeb/be...ple-syrup-diet)

                    It is EXTREMELY unhealthy in my opinion and I am much more for low carbs diets, but that wasn't my point. My point was that carbs are not directly transformed to fats.

                    The note on my education was due to slightly arrogant comment you made. Yes, I really finished both undergrads and part 3 from Trinity and more than that but that isn't the point. I am not going to prove my point through my background but through the facts.
                    I think I misinterpreted what you said and we are arguing over a little technicality here. Anyway, it's slightly off topic but did you ever box for Cambridge and if so did you fight in Varsity?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
                      This is how - very simple actually.

                      Eating none carbs (or very small amounts that is required for ketosis) would direct your body and say 'hey there is no carbs to be used here, we need to use something else'. So what can body use - FATS!

                      Eating fats (but only fats) will help you lose fat. But if you eat lets say 150 gr of fat and 100 gr of carbs that would be very unlikely because your body will use 100 gr of fats and maybe some of fats.

                      Now if you eat 500 gr of fat and eating 0 gr carbs that would make you fat as you can't lose all 500 gr of fat regardless that you eat 0 carbs.

                      I am not saying that eating fats would make you fat if you use all of itbut the question is what body uses and what body stores. Body stores fat if it isn't used. Eating carbs makes your body store fat (not carbs that is becoming fat) but fat that's already there.
                      There's absolutely no way you can eat "just fats" and even if you could you would feel tired as fuck, with absolutely 0 energy to do anything, let alone do a professional boxer training.

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