Why does Canelo call Mayweather, what exactly has he achieved in boxing?

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  • codey
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    #21
    The way I see it aside from canelo wanting a payday, he just wants to fight the best.

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    • THE REED
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      #22
      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
      Yea he did come closer that is true, but canelo is a looong way from Pac. We'll see but I wouldn't bank on it. Floyd is taking most of the risk in this fight and he's the proven commodity, he'd be ****** to accept 60/40 imo
      40k people to see canelo live and he was fighting a guy nobody ever heard of... thats seriously impressive... golden boy is going to be playing their best bargaining tactics on this one...

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      • 4Corners
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        #23
        Originally posted by THE REED™
        40k people to see canelo live and he was fighting a guy nobody ever heard of... thats seriously impressive... golden boy is going to be playing their best bargaining tactics on this one...
        I still feel like if Floyd or Manny had a ton of 10-20 dollar tickets available and a venue like that, they'd have 40-50 thousand people in there too.

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        • PurePugilist216
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          Yeah, it's funny to see people talking about splits. Unless there is a dramatic improvement in his defense v Guerrero, Mayweather isn't taking this fight and maybe not even then.
          Yup i find his legacy to be a bit tarnished, I don’t know anyone now he can fight that is actually a big and worth seeing, besides Martinez but that fight won’t get made. A Pac win, no matter what anyone thinks would have at least given him a prime all time great on his last, and now he lost that.

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            #25
            Originally posted by 4Corners
            I still feel like if Floyd or Manny had a ton of 10-20 dollar tickets available and a venue like that, they'd have 40-50 thousand people in there too.
            Maybe, maybe not... but we re still comparing canelo now to only floyd and pacquiao in terms of drawing power.

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            • Kagami Taiga
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              #26
              Originally posted by THE REED™
              40k people to see canelo live and he was fighting a guy nobody ever heard of... thats seriously impressive... golden boy is going to be playing their best bargaining tactics on this one...
              That's true, but at the end of the day, that doesn't reflect at all on his ability to sell a ppv. And seeing as that's where the null of the pay comes from, unless they decide to wait until Alvarez has a ppv under his belt, he's an unproven commodity that will outweigh an undefeated 37 y/o megastar who regularly sells 1mil ppvs by 20lbs on fight night. When u look at it that way, 60/40 just isn't realistic. And it won't move Floyd

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              • 4Corners
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                #27
                Originally posted by PurePugilist216
                Yup i find his legacy to be a bit tarnished, I don’t know anyone now he can fight that is actually a big and worth seeing, besides Martinez but that fight won’t get made. A Pac win, no matter what anyone thinks would have at least given him a prime all time great on his last, and now he lost that.
                Pacquiao would need to comeback with some good or decent wins before that fight means anything again, agreed. But Sergio, man when will people realize that Sergio Martinez is the Middleweight champion or the world, and hasn't fought at 154 in 4 years??? Floyd is already terrible undersized against 154 lb fighters, and people want him to fight full fledged Middleweights???

                I'd like to see Floyd-Canelo, but Canelo, nor Trout, did anything last night to impress me and make me feel like that fight is a 100% right now. Let Canelo fight the Lara/Angulo winner next, because his conditioning was exposed last night. You aren't going to stay unbeaten very long when you gas after 4 rounds, and take off 2/3 of almost of every round.

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                • komodo
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                  #28
                  Canelo is the unified champ he can call Floyd out all he wants. However, if Floyd sees Canelo as a major threat he's not taking the fight irrespective of the sums involved.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by THE REED™
                    Maybe, maybe not... but we re still comparing canelo now to only floyd and pacquiao in terms of drawing power.
                    Well I still think Cotto is more of a draw, the guys proven on PPV's that he can sell 500-600K against someone like Margarito, and Cotto draws big crowds, with more expensive tickets I believe.

                    No way should Canelo get 40% against Floyd. Manny should get 40% now, 45% before he was KO'd my Marquez. I think I read somewhere that Cotto got 35%, could be wrong though.

                    Floyd was a proven PPV fighter, selling between 300-400K PPV's before fighting Oscar, and he had to give up a major portion of the revenue split to get his fight against De La Hoya. The same should happen here.

                    If not, let Canelo fight Angulo on PPV and lets see how well he does.

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                    • sicko
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                      #30
                      Still not ready for Mayweather...but Canelo is IMPROVING! Even though I thought Trout won in a close fight...gotta give Canelo SOME CREDIT!

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