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  • 4Corners
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    #151
    Originally posted by Tim2daresq
    When the focus is on Donaire being a better win than ANYTHING on Floyd's list, then yes.

    How many times do fighters get discredited fo being tailor made opposition? Tons of times.

    "Yeah he beat so, and so, but c'mon the guy was tailor made for him."
    Well that may be with other people, but not me.

    Arce was tailor made for Donaire to kill him, I'll say, because Arce wasn't even a legit fight.

    Corrales ended up being tailor made for Floyd to whup him, but it was a huge fight going in, and many picked Corrales to win. It was a legit fight.

    Big difference. Even though Donaire's one dimensional style of attack ended up being tailor made Rigondeaux to beat him, I won't discredit it. It was a huge fight going in and a big win for Rigondeaux.

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    • Tim2daresq
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      #152
      Originally posted by Capncrunch
      There was a reason nito ducked the fight for so long, he knew he was tailor made
      Correction, he knew Rigo was this damn good. Nonito>>>>>>Corrales as a fighter, and as a win.

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      • Tim2daresq
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        #153
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        SO... lets follow your logic.

        The Donaire win is = to the Corrales win...

        But... if Donaire is much greater than Corrales... by your own admission... how does that make sense?
        Great post. These Flowmos have a habit of embellishing the truth.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Tim2daresq
          Marquez can lead or counter punch. He's also not a mover, so Floyd could use his better footwork, and land the shots before JMM.

          Not to mention,JMM was a LW that just moved up 2 divisions. You don't move up to 2 divisions and your first fight is a slick fighter. Your body coordination, timing, speed, and power need to adjust to the weight class before you fight a guy like Floyd.

          Floyd straight cherry picked, and you know it. Even Dan Rafael, and all the press row guys were calling this fight a joke. Don't act like they weren't. This fight is as meaningless as it gets for Floyd.
          It was crap at the time, everyone knows that. But we just saw an even older Marquez arguably beat Manny in 2011 and KO him in 2012 at the same weight. Floyd's got to get credit for whupping him there now, given Marquez just beat arguably the #1 guy at 147.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Tim2daresq
            Correction, he knew Rigo was this damn good. Nonito>>>>>>Corrales as a fighter, and as a win.
            until nito can beat guys as good as casamayor, freitas, castillo, etc then no he really isn't

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              #156
              Originally posted by 4Corners
              Well that may be with other people, but not me.

              Arce was tailor made for Donaire to kill him, I'll say, because Arce wasn't even a legit fight.

              Corrales ended up being tailor made for Floyd to whup him, but it was a huge fight going in, and many picked Corrales to win. It was a legit fight.

              Big difference. Even though Donaire's one dimensional style of attack ended up being tailor made Rigondeaux to beat him, I won't discredit it. It was a huge fight going in and a big win for Rigondeaux.
              You keep bringing up Arce as if that's supposed to mean something. He's 1 guy on a list of KO victims.

              Donaire's a counter puncher with explosive KO power. Rigo made him fight his fight. The margin for error in that fight was jaw dropping.

              Chico is a guy with chin issues, and was begging to get tagged all night. If Chico was @ 122, Rigo and Donaire would've eaten him alive. Let's see, 2 counter punchers with movement, and with concussive KO power vs. a guy that comes forward, and has a bad chin.......HMMMMMMMMMM

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                #157
                Originally posted by Tim2daresq
                You keep bringing up Arce as if that's supposed to mean something. He's 1 guy on a list of KO victims.

                Donaire's a counter puncher with explosive KO power. Rigo made him fight his fight. The margin for error in that fight was jaw dropping.

                Chico is a guy with chin issues, and was begging to get tagged all night. If Chico was @ 122, Rigo and Donaire would've eaten him alive. Let's see, 2 counter punchers with movement, and with concussive KO power vs. a guy that comes forward, and has a bad chin.......HMMMMMMMMMM
                Nonito would be sparked, you saw him against Mathebula. Hes lucky Jeffrey has pillow hands

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Capncrunch
                  until nito can beat guys as good as casamayor, freitas, castillo, etc then no he really isn't
                  bahahahahahaha Freitas!? The same JLC that's lost a million times before, and his best win was a SD against Stevie Johnston. If you would've had Donaire fight either guy, you'd a call them bums. GTFOH, I know your Flowmo tactics.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Tim2daresq
                    You keep bringing up Arce as if that's supposed to mean something. He's 1 guy on a list of KO victims.

                    Donaire's a counter puncher with explosive KO power. Rigo made him fight his fight. The margin for error in that fight was jaw dropping.

                    Chico is a guy with chin issues, and was begging to get tagged all night. If Chico was @ 122, Rigo and Donaire would've eaten him alive. Let's see, 2 counter punchers with movement, and with concussive KO power vs. a guy that comes forward, and has a bad chin.......HMMMMMMMMMM
                    You keep comparing guys from several weight classes apart.....if Froch was at 122, Rigondeaux would kill him. Does that mean it's not a good for Ward??? Stop comparing people several weight classes apart.

                    I said it's dumb when people use the "he was tailor made" excuse when someone gets whupped. You can use it when the fight isn't a legit fight "Donaire-Arce, Pacquiao-Margarito" and fights that aren't legit going in.

                    But you can't use that as an excuse for fights like Mayweather-Corrales, Ali-Liston I, Foreman-Frazier, Donaire-Rigondeaux, Pacquiao-Cotto, and fights that were big fights going into it.

                    Get it... understand.....even a little???

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                    • Tim2daresq
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                      #160
                      I'm out this thread for a minute. Gotta hit up the gym. Flowmos make me laugh.

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