Do some fighters willingly fight on the inside? Or is it only because they have to?

[KidneyPunch]

I'm curious, because I believe that some fighter's chose to fight on the inside, I apparently don't know anything about Boxing.

According to Tim2daresq in this thread;

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=593143&page=4

Fighter's do not willingly chose to fight on the inside. Inside fighting is only something you do when you have to or are forced to.

Take Bernard Hopkins, for example. Is he a fighter who never willingly fought on the inside? Or did he fight there solely because he had no choice?

What do you think? Do some fighter's chose to fight on the inside?

Of course some boxer's willingly fight on the inside.

Anyone who says different watches MMA.

Ricky Hatton's entire game was predicated on how well he could mug his opponent on the inside.

Not every fighter works behind their jab, and most don't have the footwork and defense to afford to fight from the outside without the jab.

Mike Tyson is a perfect example. Well, at least a prime Mike Tyson.

Tyson threw tight punches, and usually only jabbed to create openings to get inside. Once there, he put the fear of God into his opponents.

Tyson was a small heavyweight with shorter than average arms. Had he not taken that approach, he would have gotten jabbed all night like he did against Lewis albeit Mike being a shell of his former self at that point.

I've seen boxers break and willingly come right back together, with their heads almost pressed together, and go to war .. many times.

What do you think Donaire was trying to do against Rigondeaux the whole night? He couldn't do it because Rigo's footwork wouldn't allow him to. The only reason Donaire got the knockdown is because he ran up, grappled with Rigo so that he couldn't move out to the side, and then pushed off while punching.

If it weren't for the close quarters of that exchange, Donaire wouldn't have gotten the knockdown.

I can't believe that this has to be explained.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm curious, because I believe that some fighter's chose to fight on the inside, I apparently don't know anything about Boxing.

According to Tim2daresq in this thread;

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=593143&page=4

Fighter's do not willingly chose to fight on the inside. Inside fighting is only something you do when you have to or are forced to.

Take Bernard Hopkins, for example. Is he a fighter who never willingly fought on the inside? Or did he fight there solely because he had no choice?

What do you think? Do some fighter's chose to fight on the inside?

Of course you are right. Even though I enjoyed you eviscerating this clown why are you wasting your time arguing with this dude dan? I don't know which poster this is an alt for but tim2daresq has had the name for about 13 days and he has damn near 800 posts, 750 of which he refers to someone as a flowmo.

DO you really think he knows anything about boxing?

[KidneyPunch]

Of course you are right. Even though I enjoyed you eviscerating this clown why are you wasting your time arguing with this dude dan? I don't know which poster this is an alt for but tim2daresq has had the name for about 13 days and he has damn near 800 posts, 750 of which he refers to someone as a flowmo.

DO you really think he knows anything about boxing?

LOL ....... truth.

[New England]

no fighter has ever tried to box on the inside intentionally. not even irish micky ward.


silly danimal.

[New England]

Of course some boxer's willingly fight on the inside.

Anyone who says different watches MMA.

Ricky Hatton's entire game was predicated on how well he could mug his opponent on the inside.

Not every fighter works behind their jab, and most don't have the footwork and defense to afford to fight from the outside without the jab.

Mike Tyson is a perfect example. Well, at least a prime Mike Tyson.

Tyson threw tight punches, and usually only jabbed to create openings to get inside. Once there, he put the fear of God into his opponents.

Tyson was a small heavyweight with shorter than average arms. Had he not taken that approach, he would have gotten jabbed all night like he did against Lewis albeit Mike being a shell of his former self at that point.

I've seen boxers break and willingly come right back together, with their heads almost pressed together, and go to war .. many times.

What do you think Donaire was trying to do against Rigondeaux the whole night? He couldn't do it because Rigo's footwork wouldn't allow him to. The only reason Donaire got the knockdown is because he ran up, grappled with Rigo so that he couldn't move out to the side, and then pushed off while punching.

If it weren't for the close quarters of that exchange, Donaire wouldn't have gotten the knockdown.

I can't believe that this has to be explained.

this thread is what's known as a "rhetorical device."

he asks a question intended to send a message. he's communicating by asking a question that doesn't need to be asked.


it's essentially using humour to prove a point. it's a concept that the greeks laid out on paper 2500 years ago in athens, but it's really much older than that.



of course certain fighters are on the inside intentionally.

[BennyST]

You're a lying, petty individual. Not even trying to call you a man, because you have no morals.

I said, and I quote, "WHY (keyword) would you fight on the inside, if you don't have to?"

Since you don't have any reading comprehension, you took that for me saying, "no fighter in the history of boxing has ever fought on the inside, willingly."

You're a trip.

Why not just try answering the question straight up in your first reply, if hes wrong, and proving him wrong instead of post after post after post doing nothing but insulting the guy about seemingly random stuff before eventually getting to a point pages later? I read through fifty posts waiting for your answer because you kept saying he was wrong and bull****ting, but then you never answered, just wrote bad insults again and again.

Is this your answer? Make sense. I'm confused as to the point of your posts and where they are going or what they are answering.

I need resolution.

[IronDanHamza]

Why not just try answering the question straight up in your first reply, if hes wrong, and proving him wrong instead of post after post after post doing nothing but insulting the guy about seemingly random stuff before eventually getting to a point pages later? I read through fifty posts waiting for your answer because you kept saying he was wrong and bull****ting, but then you never answered, just wrote bad insults again and again.

Is this your answer? Make sense. I'm confused as to the point of your posts and where they are going or what they are answering.

I need resolution.

Benny, funnily enough the exact person I had in mind when having this discussion.

What do you think? Do fighters, or more specifically "Boxers", only fight inside because they have to? Or do some do it willingly?

Because the local Genius, Tim, thinks that guys like Pernell Whitaker, never fought inside for no other reason than they were forced to.

You should read the orginial thread where this discussion was had that I posted on the first page, relatively short, but full of some classic, sig worthy lines.

[IronDanHamza]

this thread is what's known as a "rhetorical device."

he asks a question intended to send a message. he's communicating by asking a question that doesn't need to be asked.


it's essentially using humour to prove a point. it's a concept that the greeks laid out on paper 2500 years ago in athens, but it's really much older than that.



of course certain fighters are on the inside intentionally.

Best reply I may have ever read.

Would Green you if I could.

[BennyST]

Benny, funnily enough the exact person I had in mind when having this discussion.

What do you think? Do fighters, or more specifically "Boxers", only fight inside because they have to? Or do some do it willingly?

Because the local Genius, Tim, thinks that guys like Pernell Whitaker, never fought inside for no other reason than they were forced to.

You should read the orginial thread where this discussion was had that I posted on the first page, relatively short, but full of some classic, sig worthy lines.

Well, you know as well as I that it goes without saying they do it willingly.

Why Tim? Lots of reasons. They feel like changing something up, test the other guy for strength etc, they want to go toe to toe, knock the guy out, have a war, rest inside, beat them at their own game.....lots of reasons.....they do it because they can, and because they want to. This video explains it best though:

http://*************/watch?v=vrhyOdIlPNc

Couldn't embed on my iPad.

As does this one, which shows both sides of the coin. Getting a rest inside, testing the other guy, but doing both because he can and is more than willing to do it: http://*************/watch?v=eW9l7TQH9gE

[IronDanHamza]

Well, you know as well as I that it goes without saying they do it willingly.

Why Tim? Lots of reasons. They feel like changing something up, test the other guy for strength etc, they want to go toe to toe, knock the guy out, have a war, rest inside, beat them at their own game.....lots of reasons.....they do it because they can, and because they want to. This video explains it best though:

http://*************/watch?v=vrhyOdIlPNc

Couldn't embed on my iPad.

As does this one, which shows both sides of the coin. Getting a rest inside, testing the other guy, but doing both because he can and is more than willing to do it: http://*************/watch?v=eW9l7TQH9gE

The real question is, does James Toney have a real inside game like Castillo, Corrales or Brandon Rios.

You did know that they are real inside fighters, didn't you? That willingly go on the inside.

Guys, or "boxers" like Toney, don't go there willingly, fighters only go onto the inside apparently if that is there sole way of winning. A "Boxer" doesn't fight inside, he just ties up.

Imagine that, James Toney, fighting inside, because he wants to?! No way, can't envision that.

That moves on to how Rigondeaux's inside game is actually boxing from the outside (Real quote).

Rigondeaux's inside game is not allowing guys to get on the inside with movement, angles and crisp counters, apparently, much like Pernell Whitaker.

Boxers don't fight on the inside unless forced. I mean, that's the question being beckond - "If you don't have to, why would you?" Errr, I don't know, because they can? And are comfortable, and want to break a fighter down maybe?

By the way, if you dispute this, you don't know anything about Boxing Imagine that.