And Down Goes Mayweather...

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I, myself, am disappointed in Jones by his showing against Tarver in the third fight. He just didn't have it in him to try to win. This was his FIRST test of adversity in his career and he failed miserably.

Mosley chugged on to a decision loss after the first Forrest fight. Mosley had heart.

Can't really say that about Jones. It was clear to me Jones thought he could get a decision when against Tarver if it went 12 rounds. He just forgot that it's not that simple AND that he had to try to win...

Jones is 36, and his best days are clearly behind him. That's like talking about Leonard's loss to Norris, or Ali's to Spinks and speaking like it's a high point of contention when looking at the entire career.

That has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

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I, myself, am disappointed in Jones by his showing against Tarver in the third fight. He just didn't have it in him to try to win. This was his FIRST test of adversity in his career and he failed miserably.

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What about the first Tarver fight? And the Lou DeValle fight when got knockdown? Or when Eric Harding gave him alot of trouble? What about when Ruiz nailed him on the chin in his first heavyweight fight? No offense, but I wouldn't say that was his first test of adversity. But he should have faught Tarver more. He was scared of Tarver's left hand, and he ending up catching one in the 11th...

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What about the first Tarver fight? And the Lou DeValle fight when got knockdown? Or when Eric Harding gave him alot of trouble? What about when Ruiz nailed him on the chin in his first heavyweight fight? No offense, but I wouldn't say that was his first test of adversity. But he should have faught Tarver more. He was scared of Tarver's left hand, and he ending up catching one in the 11th...

Jones didn't face a lot of adversity in his career, becuase his reflex and natural ability seperated him from it.

May's a great fighter, but he alreadly (imo) lost to Castillo in his prime.

Roy Jones fought James Toney when they were in their primes and beat him 12 rounds to none.

Jones is the greatest fighter of his generation.

Floyd has a few years to go before we can say the same. I think he'll do it, but time will tell.

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This thread was about people who will turn on Floyd for losing... the connection with Jones is a naturally analogy/reference/connection. I said there is a fine difference between Floyd and Jones. There is...

(on a side note, at 36 people were talking about Jones being the best ever until the Tarver rematches happened .

Jones is 36, and his best days are clearly behind him. That's like talking about Leonard's loss to Norris, or Ali's to Spinks and speaking like it's a high point of contention when looking at the entire career.

That has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

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Nope with Roy people were already talking, Roy went as far as to get mad with anyone that didnt have him as #1 in the pound for pound lists.

Imo Floyd is a very good fighter, the fact that he beat castillo once shows how good he is. I think he is lacking on achieving greatness by not doing anything a while but he has accomplished a good things.

G. Hernandez
C. Henandez
Chavez
Castillo (once)
Corrales
Sosa

All speak very highly on his resume. He just needs to go for greatness by fighting a game opponent. He hasnt fought anyone thats truely been of great note since he went up to 140. and that was in 2004.

If he looses and from now on the man will have been very good but he never showed ambitions to be great just to make money.

See what if he unified the 4 140 lb belts? He ruled it with an iron fist if u were a force hed fight you and beat u, thats what makes u great. Floyd is out there just calling the money names, not the threats, old semi-retired fighters like DLH arent the path to real greatness imo.

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This thread was about people who will turn on Floyd for losing... the connection with Jones is a naturally analogy/reference/connection. I said there is a fine difference between Floyd and Jones. There is...

(on a side note, at 36 people were talking about Jones being the best ever until the Tarver rematches happened ).

With all do respect, how come everyone forgets that Jones went to heavyweight won a heavyweight title, and Ruiz has beaten some big names and was still alot bigger then Jones. Then he dropped like 25 pounds and beat Tarver for his light heavyweight titles in ONE YEAR!? Thats crazy...

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This thread was about people who will turn on Floyd for losing... the connection with Jones is a naturally analogy/reference/connection. I said there is a fine difference between Floyd and Jones. There is...

(on a side note, at 36 people were talking about Jones being the best ever until the Tarver rematches happened ).

You don't like Jones, and I've seen you spout hatefull ignorance about him on more than one occasion.

He lost at 36, and that does nothing to take away from what he did previous to that.

He was asking if all the idiots who starting writing off Roy's career when he lost (at 36) would do the same to Floyd.

I pointed out that's a moot point, because what anyone that ignorant thinks doesn't matter.

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You can argue Roy slipped against DeValle. If you think he was knocked down, ok. He was knocked down in a fight he won every round in.

Harding a challenge, no.

Ruiz a challenge, hell no. An old Holyfield went to a trilogy with Ruiz. Let me add, Evander looked good against Ruiz in the fight he won. Don't need to add anymore there.

What about the first Tarver fight? And the Lou DeValle fight when got knockdown? Or when Eric Harding gave him alot of trouble? What about when Ruiz nailed him on the chin in his first heavyweight fight? No offense, but I wouldn't say that was his first test of adversity. But he should have faught Tarver more. He was scared of Tarver's left hand, and he ending up catching one in the 11th...

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I don't blame Bloodshed for being angry at Roy. Roy should have mixed it up more. But all I am saying is lets give Roy some credit for his year 2003.

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Not buying the age thing. Not for one second. He just beat Ruiz in what was arguably his biggest fight. The fight had casual boxing fans watching too.

He was being called GOAT after the Ruiz fight. Age didn't hinder him from going to heavy and whooping Ruiz.

But age caught up with him months later against Tarver... The age thing is a convenient excuse that you, nor I can prove or disprove.

Roy never used his age as an excuse. In fact he plans to keep fighting. He sure doesn't need the money.

The Roy Jones trilogy shows three ABHORRENT facts.

Jones' nuthuggers refusing to give Tarver credit for beating him.

Roy Jones is scared of Tarver.

And using his AGE as an excuse for three sub-par performances (meanwhile he had a career defining fight against Ruiz).

You don't like Jones, and I've seen you spout hatefull ignorance about him on more than one occasion.

He lost at 36, and that does nothing to take away from what he did previous to that.

He was asking if all the idiots who starting writing off Roy's career when he lost (at 36) would do the same to Floyd.

I pointed out that's a moot point, because what anyone that ignorant thinks doesn't matter.