Freddie Roach: Marquez Wants About 50 - 50, it's a Bit Outrageous

[Hougigo]

the market will dictate the split. it's not fair, but that's how it will go.

the amount of money marquez gets will be based on the amount of money manny could get without him.


i don't know what those numbers would be, but i do believe that manny's drawing power still outweighs marquez in terms of PPV buys.

yes, marquez brought the majority of the fans to their last fight, but the gate isn't what generate the huge numbers in a megafight. those are generated in PPV sales. 70 bucks a pop, 500,000 to 1,000,000 times or more.

A Bradley vs Marquez PPV would be a good indicator IMO

[Ringlife]

I think a 50/50 split is a legit demand for Marquez. Tbh I don't even think Pac even wants to fight Marquez again he's not calling Marquez out at all. After getting dropped in the third round then getting put to sleep in the 6th round it might be a mental thing with Pac now.

[straightleft]

It is just too funny that everything Pacman & his team wanted from Mayweather and didnt want has backfire on them with Marquez from drug testing accusation to purse split man I love it! Everything that Floyd demanded for the fight, the Pac fans would say so many hateful things but now that Pac team is doing it to Marquez what Floyd did to Pac, Pac fans now have a change of heart and want to hate on Marquez for such demands haha I love it jajaja fuuny thing that what Floyd fans used to make sense for Floyd demands now Pac man fans want to use it, Pac beat many of Floyd left over opponents and now Pac fans are using Floyd fans left over arguments!

Did you know these Floyd opponents (Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto) made him for what he is right now and are the main components of his legacy?

Did you also aware all these guys (Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto) Pac beat the crap out of them easily in one sided fashion and almost didn't make a sweat of doing so?

[Bigg Rigg]

Michael Woods-

I asked Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach if he thinks we'll see Pacquiao-Marquez 5, in September.

"My gut instinct on what is next? I want it to be Marquez, Manny wants Marquez, but Marquez wants a lot, lot, lot of money," Roach (seen with Pacquiao in above Chris Farina-Top Rank photo, before the fourth bout) told me. "I think it's a little outrageous. It may not happen. We might have to go to Mike Alvarado or Brandon Rios or a Tim Bradley rematch could be made. I want Marquez right away, Manny and I both want it. But Marquez wants just about a 50-50 split. Manny brings butts in seats, pay-per-view-wise, Manny is the guy. Obviously Manny deserves more. I think a rematch will make a lot more money than the last fight. I think both sides can ask for more and Marquez deserves something, but not 50-50."

Manny ain't the guy no more. Marquez knocked him the fck out. Yeah I think Manny won the first 3 fights, Marquez won his by ko!!! Plus the Mexicans will support this hard with ppv buys up the ass. And in their last fight, all the butts in the MGM seats sounded like they came to see Marquez cuz he had crowd, not PAC.

[Capncrunch]

A Bradley vs Marquez PPV would be a good indicator IMO

If official numbers get released. When was the last time nbers that didn't come from Arum got released?

[Heavy Hitter]

the market will dictate the split. it's not fair, but that's how it will go. in a perfect world, marquez 60/40 at least, but this is a business, and not run based on principals.

the amount of money marquez gets will be based on the amount of money manny could get without him.


i don't know what those numbers would be, but i do believe that manny's drawing power still outweighs marquez in terms of PPV buys.

yes, marquez brought the majority of the fans to their last fight, but the gate isn't what generate the huge numbers in a megafight. those are generated in PPV sales. 70 bucks a pop, 500,000 to 1,000,000 times or more.

Correct with that PPV brings in the(by far) most amount of money, but do remember that the distributers get around half the money before the promoter sees any of the PPV number.

Also due to the loss that Pacquiao suffered in his last fight, and especially if he revisists a Bradley rematch(which was not an exciting fight the first time), these are two factors I believe will affect Pacquiao's PPV sales. If Pacquiao did around 900k buys for the first Bradley fight when the potential Mayweather fight was still in the air(I believe this drove up both Pacquiao and Mayweather's PPV sales). I personally do not see Pacquiao vs Bradley II hitting 900k.
This of course is all my opinion and could be wrong.

[New England]

A Bradley vs Marquez PPV would be a good indicator IMO

yes, and soul food.

[Pacquiao'd]

The issue is the alternative both sides have to coming to an agreement. That's what power is in negotiations, who has has the best fallback plan if negotiations fail.

A major reason Pac-Mayweather never happened was because both sides had really sweet alternatives if the negotiations fell through. Manny went on to do 1M+ PPV buys against Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez. Floyd did the same against Mosley, Ortiz, and Cotto.

When that's your fallback option you're not really under much pressure to get the job done.

The reality here is what JMM's alternatives are. How many PPV buys could he realistically do against a Bradley or a Rios? If he could do 500,000, then with the power he would have over a Rios or a Bradley in terms of the split might mean it's worth his while to go that route. The difference between that and a Pacquiao fight might not be enough for him to offer Manny the 5th fight.

Is 500k realistic? I don't know, it seems high given that Pacquiao only did 700k against Bradley.

When are you going to learn that you cant negotiate when one side(Pac's) is less than willing? Floyd made more concessions moving more than to the middle for Pac and he still walked away.

[Bigg Rigg]

I think a 50/50 split is a legit demand for Marquez. Tbh I don't even think Pac even wants to fight Marquez again he's not calling Marquez out at all. After getting dropped in the third round then getting put to sleep in the 6th round it might be a mental thing with Pac now.

Oh PAC wants it. I know he does. After the kd in rd 3, he wanted to try and kill Marquez. Went crazy on him until he got put out. That's the way he is, he gets it and wants to hit you right back even harder. PAC is a warrior bro. Freddie needs to understand though that the warrior got ko and isn't in control anymore. 50-50 is legit IMO too.

[Pacquiao'd]

Did you know these Floyd opponents (Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto) made him for what he is right now and are the main components of his legacy?

Did you also aware all these guys (Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto) Pac beat the crap out of them easily in one sided fashion and almost didn't make a sweat of doing so?

puhlease son. Floyd also fought them on the upside and comfortable unlike pacjuice