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  • Russian Crushin
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    #291
    Originally posted by MurkaMan
    No but I remember, Chavez being picked to lose, and ended up dominating so bad that it seemed like he would beat Martinez, based on Martinez's last fight with Macklin, in which he looked old, and aged.
    Chavez was a big favorite at -400 to lee's +300

    The fight also had an over/under at 9.5 with the under money line set at -250, which meant he was favored to stop him under 9.

    Making up stuff doesnt make it true

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    • MurkaMan
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      #292
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Ill give you Murray. Now explain Barker and Chavez and how they "earned it". You're biased as hell for sergio, its clear as day If you know you're boxing stuff then you can see the skill set that GOlovkin brings, especially the way he fights off the jab. But no, all you saw in the Rosado fight was Rosado "outboxing" golovkin. Sure you know your boxing bruh
      Your basically asking the same stuff that I already answered. Well you can look back at my older comments for the answers. Martinez is at a different level from when he fought those fighters. Now he's the top dog, and GGG should earn the fight. But NONE OF THIS MATTERS, Martinez is about to cherrypick GGG. And you ignored what I said about Ward agreeing with me. I told you, I know my boxing. Martinez is my favorite but I dont have to be biased. I just speak real boxing, because I know my boxing.

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      • MurkaMan
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        #293
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Chavez was a big favorite at -400 to lee's +300

        The fight also had an over/under at 9.5 with the under money line set at -250, which meant he was favored to stop him under 9.

        Making up stuff doesnt make it true
        I dont care about betting odds. Chavez was basically expected to get outboxed and dominated by Lee. Chavez beat the crap out of that guy and it was shocking to us. With Martinez coming off of bad performances, no one expected him to dominate that big guy like that. Martinez was at his best. And took a good shot, then got up fighting. I dont see no one getting with Martinez as long as he does what he did in his last fight. Too good and too tough.

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        • HeroBando
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          #294
          Originally posted by MurkaMan
          I dont care about betting odds. Chavez was basically expected to get outboxed and dominated by Lee. Chavez beat the crap out of that guy and it was shocking to us. With Martinez coming off of bad performances, no one expected him to dominate that big guy like that. Martinez was at his best. And took a good shot, then got up fighting. I dont see no one getting with Martinez as long as he does what he did in his last fight. Too good and too tough.
          Looks like you should care about the odds. They got this one spot on, and you were way off.

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          • MurkaMan
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            #295
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Looks like you should care about the odds. They got this one spot on, and you were way off.
            No, no, no, the odds are trash. Lets not discredit Chavez's win over Lee. That was one of his first legit opponents, and he earned a win. It was exciting, it was unexpected, it was crowd pleasing. He was showboating, and allot of us were impressed and amazed by how this so called bum, started turning into a damn beast. Im no fan of Chavez, but I give him credit. He's so big for that weight class, that he's a tough guy to deal with. As he gets older, he will be even better. He's going to learn how to apply relentless pressure, opposed to trying to let faster guys bait him into a boxing match.

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #296
              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              I dont care about betting odds. Chavez was basically expected to get outboxed and dominated by Lee. Chavez beat the crap out of that guy and it was shocking to us. With Martinez coming off of bad performances, no one expected him to dominate that big guy like that. Martinez was at his best. And took a good shot, then got up fighting. I dont see no one getting with Martinez as long as he does what he did in his last fight. Too good and too tough.
              Chavez did exactly what was expected of him against lee, ass did Martinez. You dont care about odds because they dont support your claim

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              • MurkaMan
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                #297
                Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                Chavez did exactly what was expected of him against lee, ass did Martinez. You dont care about odds because they dont support your claim
                I dont care about it supporting my claims. I think for myself, and no one cares about odds. Not even you. But because it supports your argument, now you use it as back up? Chavez was expected to get outboxed, and he not only won but dominated. At the same time, Martinez was aging. People started thinking it was a tougher fight than expected. And Martinez walked that big brother down. MarKingez is a Tough warrior in that ring. Something you keep ignoring; Ward says the same thing about GGG that I do. I told you, I know my boxing.

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                • Hougigo
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                  #298
                  Originally posted by MurkaMan
                  I dont care about betting odds. Chavez was basically expected to get outboxed and dominated by Lee. Chavez beat the crap out of that guy and it was shocking to us. With Martinez coming off of bad performances, no one expected him to dominate that big guy like that. Martinez was at his best. And took a good shot, then got up fighting. I dont see no one getting with Martinez as long as he does what he did in his last fight. Too good and too tough.
                  Expected by who?
                  Obviously not the public since he was a heavy favorite that grew. I think he was close to -700 on fight night.

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                  • MurkaMan
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                    #299
                    Originally posted by hougigo
                    Expected by who?
                    Obviously not the public since he was a heavy favorite that grew. I think he was close to -700 on fight night.
                    Nah, Most people thought that since it was the first legit opponent that Chavez had fought, he would get outboxed. Chavez surprised us all with how good he did. Now everyone wants to discredit the guy. Give him his just dues.

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                      #300
                      Originally posted by MurkaMan
                      Nah, Most people thought that since it was the first legit opponent that Chavez had fought, he would get outboxed. Chavez surprised us all with how good he did. Now everyone wants to discredit the guy. Give him his just dues.
                      You have no idea what you're talking about. The betting odds reflect expert opinion.

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