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  • #61
    Originally posted by Earl Hickey View Post
    So many fighters would get shat on for a fight like this.

    A guy coming off a schooling to an almost 40 year old midget, being dragged up in weight to fight a P4P'r, most likely in his back garden.

    But because it's WARD it's all gravy

    "jus gettin paid man"

    "he deserves an easy payday"

    ****ing NSB just blows my mind.

    let's look a bit deeper, shall we?
    why would fighters in this situation be "shat on?"


    ward's not a protected fighter or a cash cow. that's where the complaining has come from for similar fights in the past.

    there's a difference here. this is one fight. before this he fought top fighters for relatively little money.

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    • #62
      B.......hop


      say it with me andre: Beeeee......hoooooop.bhop.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        let's look a bit deeper, shall we?
        why would fighters in this situation be "shat on?"


        ward's not a protected fighter or a cash cow. that's where the complaining has come from for similar fights in the past.

        there's a difference here. this is one fight. before this he fought top fighters for relatively little money.
        Personally I thought the Dawson fight was a gimme for Ward.

        It was Dawsons own fault for being a moron and saying he'd o 168 but he was ****ing atrocious at that weight, like he'd of gotten sparke by most of the guys Ward already beat, he was that awful

        But still it was a nice easy name.

        Why doesn't he just go to 175 and fight one of the champs there at that weight? What's wrong with becoming a 2 weight champ?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Earl Hickey View Post
          Personally I thought the Dawson fight was a gimme for Ward.

          It was Dawsons own fault for being a moron and saying he'd o 168 but he was ****ing atrocious at that weight, like he'd of gotten sparke by most of the guys Ward already beat, he was that awful

          But still it was a nice easy name.

          Why doesn't he just go to 175 and fight one of the champs there at that weight? What's wrong with becoming a 2 weight champ?

          i agree about the weight, but we could only know that to a degree of certainty after the fight. dawson offered to head to 168, and had actually been talking about it for years. he made the wrong call, but that's not andre ward's fault. it wasn't and was never a shameful fight. it was seen as a tremendous fight when it was signed

          they also didn't get paid a ton of money for that fight

          for some reason he won't fight bernard hopkins. i'm not defending it, but they won't fight eachother. i think ward said he would fight him for the right reasons, but i'll believe it when i see it.

          at 175 i like kovalev, but otherwise it's kind of a bleh division. i don't want to see him fight cleverly or shumenov. those fights would be sh#T on similarly. shumenov is a total nobody, and cleverly is virtually unkown in the states. both are mediocre at best. shumenov sucks, frankly.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Earl Hickey View Post
            So many fighters would get shat on for a fight like this.

            A guy coming off a schooling to an almost 40 year old midget, being dragged up in weight to fight a P4P'r, most likely in his back garden.

            But because it's WARD it's all gravy

            "jus gettin paid man"

            "he deserves an easy payday"

            ****ing NSB just blows my mind.
            if you're talking about Chavez Jr here, he's hardly being dragged up in weight is he?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by fredhopple View Post
              No wonder Ward is unknown. fighting Chavez does nothing for Ward. Fight Golovkin or Martinez. Chavez is a bottom feeder.
              I see your point to some degree. What a Chavez fight brings is big money. Considerably more than GGG or even Martinez. It's a good fight for Ward, big money and a relatively easy fight for him to win.

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              • #67
                Chavez vs Ward is a mismatch at any weight. Ward is thinking dollars you guys know this.

                Martinez, Hopkins and Chavez are his only options for a money fight.
                Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 04-01-2013, 09:06 AM.

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                • #68
                  No way in hell is anyone trying to justify this **** fight.Ward is p4p top2 and talking about fighting a guy who just got his ass handed to him a weight class below?

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                  • #69
                    Chavez needs at least 5+ fights to improve
                    At mo you might aswell put a punch bag in there!!

                    I dont know why wards rushing, hes got froch/kessler rematch, then he can do roy jones an slowly move upto hw!!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by pitbull puppy View Post
                      No way in hell is anyone trying to justify this **** fight.Ward is p4p top2 and talking about fighting a guy who just got his ass handed to him a weight class below?
                      Name recognition and money man. You know this.

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