Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: After My Mandatory, Maybe I'll Fight Haye

[Weltschmerz]

How hard is it to understand that they both wanted to fight? Haye just wanted to fight Chisora which was already agreed. And no fight was offered in September, it was in May. One must ask himself this: Vitali seemed to be desperate to KO Haye, now all of a sudden Haye must get in line. When he becomes mandatory, I guarantee Vitali will not be the champion.

Now you've fallen into your own usual trap of contradicting yourself in your posts. You said previously Vitali has no fear of Haye.

[DreamFighter]

Vitali is the WBC champion; he holds one of the major four belts. Which means he is champion, as well as Wlad. Both brothers are champions.

Learn it.

first tag team champions in history then. That must give you a warm feeling.

[DreamFighter]

etc. That's what I mean by ignoring reality.

VK is NOT a contender for any of WK's belts, nor his generally recognised superior status.

why is he never a contender for his belts? Why is tag teaming opponents considered ok only by Klitschko diehard fans, yet it would be wrong for anyone else.

So all stop being childish. It was begun by that geezer who has a pictureof VK dressed in a pink woman's gown. This alone should show what worth there is to anything he says about Klirschko.

why does a picture lend value to a well written argument? Only a simpleton would judge a written argument by the a picture.

[Someone88]

Whether Vitali fights Haye or not, he's a legend.

[LacedUp]

Now you've fallen into your own usual trap of contradicting yourself in your posts. You said previously Vitali has no fear of Haye.

Maybe your English is not the best, or maybe you are tying to assume a little more. I was referring to the fact that Haye doesn't have the highest rankin with WBC, so the chances of becoming mandatory before Vitali retires is very slim.

You are the one who contradict yourself. Often in the same sentence. But I have learned to accept that.

[Weltschmerz]

When Haye was WBA champ, he was paper champ right? So is Vitali. There can only be one champion. It's very simple, and you can love klitschkos all you want. But there can only be one.

Yes, Haye was very much a paper champ, as Wlad should already have been WBA champ in reality, because Wlad beat Chagaev who beat Valuev. So Haye's victory over Valuev was a paper title. That's the difference between Haye and Vitali, who's been dominating year after year.

[JAB5239]

Exactly Ihat i was trying to tell someone a little while ago. They are either confused or have suddenly become "purists" and revisionists, (as if anything about them could be called "pure'), and are ignoring the realities of what boxing has become for the past 40 or more years.

WK just happens to hold most of the major title belts and by virtue of this, is recognised as the '"real" champion....that is, if we are ignoring the various organisations like IBF, WBO, WBA IBO etc. That's what I mean by ignoring reality.

VK is NOT a contender for any of WK's belts, nor his generally recognised superior status.

So all stop being childish. It was begun by that geezer who has a pictureof VK dressed in a pink woman's gown. This alone should show what worth there is to anything he says about Klirschko. He thinks he's clever by using one Klitschko to denigrate the other one. But, on this site, as soon as someone starts a malicious critique, the lemmings come out of the woodwork, and we suddenly have dozens jostling one another to
get their needle in. Fortunately VK has a strong reputation and many defenders. I personally I don't care, but like to correct nonsense when I see it, which is more often than I like. Kid stuff.

Well, that was quite a little rant! Answer me one thing though. How many worlds do you live on? If the answer is only one like myself than there can be only ONE heavyweight champion of the world. Than that means all other titles are paper in value and a paper titlist is in turn just another contender. That the other ABCorgs don't recognize this is meaningless.

[JAB5239]

Yes, Haye was very much a paper champ, as Wlad should already have been WBA champ in reality, because Wlad beat Chagaev who beat Valuev. So Haye's victory over Valuev was a paper title. That's the difference between Haye and Vitali, who's been dominating year after year.

Lol at the wonderful world of Klit fan double standards!!

[LacedUp]

Lol at the wonderful world of Klit fan double standards!!

He doesn't have a clue. I think he thinks boxing is "Klitschko". One can only reply to his posts and have a shirky laugh at the lack of depth in his overall understanding.

[Daddy T]

The mandatory hasn't been enforced yet, he could sign to fight Haye right now if he wanted to, but we all know he doesn't.

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