Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: After My Mandatory, Maybe I'll Fight Haye

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  • jisi
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    #81
    Originally posted by Earl Hickey
    Vitali is not the champion, he's a Belt Holder, he has one of the trinkets

    Wlad is the champion

    learn the difference
    Absolut right.

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    • yoz
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      #82
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      I thought he made some relevant points. A shot at Vitali is not a shot at "the title". It's a shot at a belt. If Haye beat Vitali, he wouldn't be known as the heavyweight champion of the world, but the WBC title holder. Wlad is the man at HW. The fact that his brother is a belt holder has nothing to do with how badly Haye performed vs Wladimir. Vitali and Wlad are not the same person, do not share the same skills, athleticism, speed, power or accuracy.

      Vitali is the champion for WBC. He should defend it against all comers, because as you say, it's the most prestigious belt out there. But he is not. Latest opponents include Charr, Chisora, Adamek and Solis in the last 3 years. If I remember correctly, only 1 of these were mandatory. So what's this new obsessesion with being honorable to the mandatory?

      Now, I'm not suggesting he's scared of Haye at all. I don't think anyone would have a reason to think as tough a guy as Vitali would fear anyone. But it is still mesmerizing to think about why he would choose to go around Haye, when that fight brings him more than any other. In all terms, even satisfaction. Last time they met, David shook his hand and they smile and had a short laugh and David politely said: "I would really like a shot at your title". Vitali smiled and agreed.

      This was after the Munich brawl.
      I'm pretty sure Haye referred to himself as Heavyweight Champion of the World after beating Valuev...


      But I agree, Wladimir is the only champion.

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      • Someone88
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        #83
        Vitali may fight Haye.

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        • Pinoy4ever
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          #84
          Hopefully it will happen cause thats the only fight in HW ppl would watch

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          • thuggery
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            #85
            Originally posted by Pinoy4ever
            Hopefully it will happen cause thats the only fight in HW ppl would watch
            No....it won't be. Log off

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            • Weltschmerz
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              #86
              Originally posted by Earl Hickey
              Vitali is not the champion, he's a Belt Holder, he has one of the trinkets

              Wlad is the champion

              learn the difference
              Vitali is the WBC champion; he holds one of the major four belts. Which means he is champion, as well as Wlad. Both brothers are champions.

              Learn it.

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              • LacedUp
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                #87
                Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                Blah blah blah... Haye could have fought Vitali last September. Haye avoided Vitali. Haye knows his only way back is now to actually fight contenders, he's getting desperate.
                How hard is it to understand that they both wanted to fight? Haye just wanted to fight Chisora which was already agreed. And no fight was offered in September, it was in May. One must ask himself this: Vitali seemed to be desperate to KO Haye, now all of a sudden Haye must get in line. When he becomes mandatory, I guarantee Vitali will not be the champion.

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                • edgarg
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                  Vitali is the WBC champion; he holds one of the major four belts. Which means he is champion, as well as Wlad. Both brothers are champions.

                  Learn it.
                  Exactly Ihat i was trying to tell someone a little while ago. They are either confused or have suddenly become "purists" and revisionists, (as if anything about them could be called "pure'), and are ignoring the realities of what boxing has become for the past 40 or more years.

                  WK just happens to hold most of the major title belts and by virtue of this, is recognised as the '"real" champion....that is, if we are ignoring the various organisations like IBF, WBO, WBA IBO etc. That's what I mean by ignoring reality.

                  VK is NOT a contender for any of WK's belts, nor his generally recognised superior status.

                  So all stop being childish. It was begun by that geezer who has a pictureof VK dressed in a pink woman's gown. This alone should show what worth there is to anything he says about Klirschko. He thinks he's clever by using one Klitschko to denigrate the other one. But, on this site, as soon as someone starts a malicious critique, the lemmings come out of the woodwork, and we suddenly have dozens jostling one another to
                  get their needle in. Fortunately VK has a strong reputation and many defenders. I personally I don't care, but like to correct nonsense when I see it, which is more often than I like. Kid stuff.

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                    Vitali is the WBC champion; he holds one of the major four belts. Which means he is champion, as well as Wlad. Both brothers are champions.

                    Learn it.
                    Multiple champions? Kind of goes against the term champion.

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      Exactly Ihat i was trying to tell someone a little while ago. They are either confused or have suddenly become "purists" and revisionists, (as if anything about them could be called "pure'), and are ignoring the realities of what boxing has become for the past 40 or more years.

                      WK just happens to hold most of the major title belts and by virtue of this, is recognised as the '"real" champion....that is, if we are ignoring the various organisations like IBF, WBO, WBA IBO etc. That's what I mean by ignoring reality.

                      VK is NOT a contender for any of WK's belts, nor his generally recognised superior status.

                      So all stop being childish. It was begun by that geezer who has a pictureof VK dressed in a pink woman's gown. This alone should show what worth there is to anything he says about Klirschko. He thinks he's clever by using one Klitschko to denigrate the other one. But, on this site, as soon as someone starts a malicious critique, the lemmings come out of the woodwork, and we suddenly have dozens jostling one another to
                      get their needle in. Fortunately VK has a strong reputation and many defenders. I personally I don't care, but like to correct nonsense when I see it, which is more often than I like. Kid stuff.
                      When Haye was WBA champ, he was paper champ right? So is Vitali. There can only be one champion. It's very simple, and you can love klitschkos all you want. But there can only be one.

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