Who ranks higher ATG, Lewis or Wladamir

[LacedUp]

Haye is a woman, he ran like a woman against valuev and wlad. He ducked VK, he defended his 'world' title against Harrison and Ruiz lol probably the worst heavyweights I have seen for a while now. I don't see how you back this guy? He insults people's families etc. it's not cool. Wlad is most definently top 10 all time great his fighting style proves to be the best reinforced by the like of Lewis and VK. I don't see how you find the guy boring? He breaks his opponents down and he KO's them. What else do you want him to decapitate them? Wlad beats any form of haye. As a British citizen I was embarrassed for my country after the way he acted. No respect no nothing.

Haye didn't run against Wlad, he ducked his punches. How would you liked to get punched in the face by a jackhammer? I couldn't care less about what happens outside of the ring. That only counts for some per fight hype. I base my faves on what I see in the ring. Haye has always entertained me, bar Wlad and Valuev. In his defense, they are two weight classes above him.

I mean, I'm hardly the only one who doesn't find Wlad interesting. There's a reason why he's not on PPV, there's a reason he's not on HBO, Showtime or Sky or anything. I just don't like his jab jab jab style. It's a style invented by Lewis, but perfected by Wlad. I love how people on here are pure Lewis haters, but find Wlad's style to be the best thing since the pizza.

However, the man just turned 37 and you have to give him his probs for being on top at that age.

[LacedUp'sDream]

Andrew let me ask you something would you engage David Haye in sexual intercourse if the opportunity arose ? Answer truthfully.

[Weltschmerz]

Andrew let me ask you something would you engage David Haye in sexual intercourse if the opportunity arose ? Answer truthfully.

He already did.

[bojangles1987]

Lennox Lewis. Not really a question either.

[Jedi Vader]

Here is the problem

The way Wlad wins fights is to keep people outside on the end of a jab, slowly break them down before dropping them with a right hand late on.

He's fantastic at that.

Evander was an expert at working his way inside, he figures out the timing of the jab, slips in, and barrages you with hooks uppercuts and headbutts inside.

Evander also has an iron chin and is fast.

If Wlad couldnt badly hurt Haye, then he has no chance of doing it vs Evander

and Evander is like Haye on steroids but about 10X better boxer, WITH one of the best inside games in the history of heavyweight boxing and a granite chin.

Tremendous post.

[marvelousmatt]

There is an argument about this in another thread.

Lets settle it here.

Lewis has top 3 ATG resume. Vlad is top 10 ATG. With that said Lewis would have enter fight in their primes as a 3/2 -2/1 type favorite. KIit would be so live to bet though and would've been a great fight.

[marvelousmatt]

Haye didn't run against Wlad, he ducked his punches. How would you liked to get punched in the face by a jackhammer? I couldn't care less about what happens outside of the ring. That only counts for some per fight hype. I base my faves on what I see in the ring. Haye has always entertained me, bar Wlad and Valuev. In his defense, they are two weight classes above him.

I mean, I'm hardly the only one who doesn't find Wlad interesting. There's a reason why he's not on PPV, there's a reason he's not on HBO, Showtime or Sky or anything. I just don't like his jab jab jab style. It's a style invented by Lewis, but perfected by Wlad. I love how people on here are pure Lewis haters, but find Wlad's style to be the best thing since the pizza.

However, the man just turned 37 and you have to give him his probs for being on top at that age.

The HW division is alive and well. Vlad will have a group of 5-6 nice challengers on HBO coming up in the next 8-24 months. Certainly a Vlad vs Fury,Jennings,Povetkin, or Wilder would be on big time TV assuiming they are unbeaten going into those fights.It's not Vlad,it has been the viability of the HW division from 2007-2012 excluding Vlad's dominant perfromance over David "not the toe" Haye.

[LacedUp]

The HW division is alive and well. Vlad will have a group of 5-6 nice challengers on HBO coming up in the next 8-24 months. Certainly a Vlad vs Fury,Jennings,Povetkin, or Wilder would be on big time TV assuiming they are unbeaten going into those fights.It's not Vlad,it has been the viability of the HW division from 2007-2012 excluding Vlad's dominant perfromance over David "not the toe" Haye.

I disagree. A lot of fighters have fought against sub par opponents on HBO. Wlad fought Ibragimov, then they cut it because it was a stinker. Then they showed Haye, that was a stinker too. I doubt they will show Wlad again, but I could be wrong.

[A-Wolf]

I can't ever tell if some of you guys are kidding about Wladimir.

He's not even rated as an ATG (all funny jokes aside).

[miamike]

Lewis has a far better resume. It's not Wlads fault but he barely makes the top twenty all time.