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Floyd Mayweather the greatest ever, Period.
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Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520 View PostReed don't argue with this guy, he knows everything about boxing. Didn't you know that all you need to do is watch film and you learn everything you need to from boxing? No need for trainers or "old people"....
Mayweather is now the greatest of all time, it's official!!!
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Originally posted by Still Blazin View PostThe greatest ever? Naw. Most skilled, most talented? Absolutely imo. Once in a generation type fighter.
skills are up for debate. floyd mayweather just might be the best defensive fighter that i've ever seen.
i'm convinced that his reflexes are the best, even better than jones, whose phsycal speed would lend itself to making his reflexes appear better than they are.
he's not the most talented fighter of all time, though.
the basic components of talents in boxing are speed / fleetness, power, and chin. that's what you're born with. you "bring it with you to the sport."
sugar ray robinson had dynamite in either hand, had faster hands than mayweather [especially when throwing with power,] and he had one of the greatest chins ever.
that's a more talented fighter. go through the experts on the history of the game and you'll find them citing robinson as the most purely talented fighter ever.
he'd also wipe the floor with floyd mayweather, even if his defensive skills weren't close to as good as floyd's. he'd have way too much power and activity to lose a decision. robinson's chin made up for whatever defensive liabilities might show up when comparing him to the greatest defender in the history of the WW division.
there are quite a few WW i pick to beat floyd. he's small. the big four are leonard, robinson, hearns, and burley. they all had the chin to take floyd's best gas, and the style to either beat him on points or stop him.Last edited by New England; 03-22-2013, 02:02 PM.
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There's ZERO realistic case for Mayweather being the greatest ever. Showing video of him beating up on Gatti is like me showing Berto beat up Quintana, it's completely devoid of context and irrelevant to the conversation.
Greatness is determined by who you beat, not what skills you showed against hopelessly outmatched opponents.
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Floyd won't even be remembered in 20 years. GOAT discussion? Lmfao!!! History won't be kind to him. That's why his ******ed fans are so consistently butt hurt.
I give Jr. credit...he made countless truck loads of cash. And it is "prize" fighting after all.
But lmao, an emphatic no to him even being in the same galaxy as the GOAT discussion.
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Originally posted by Still Blazin View PostThe greatest ever? Naw. Most skilled, most talented? Absolutely imo. Once in a generation type fighter.
bhop is a better skilled fighter than floyd. he may not have floyd's natural abilities but he makes up for it with his skills and smarts. whatever you see in floyd is greatly aided by his natural talent...bhop relies mostly on his developed skills to win fights at the highest level.
and when it comes to natural talent...floyd can't compare with roy jones. roy is so talented he neglected the basics most of the time.
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